st1100-digest                 October 08, 2002          Volume 02 : Number 6165

The ST1100 Digest
ST1100: Gov't brake test
ST1100: Off topic: Twins tickets for sale (tonight's game only)
Re: ST1100: Off topic: Twins tickets for sale (tonight's game only)
ST1100: Laminar Lip and the new Clearview
ST1100: Gerbing
ST1100: Re: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Musings
ST1100: more harley riders
ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)
RE: ST1100: more harley riders
Re: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)
Re: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)
Re: ST1100: Gov't brake test
Re: ST1100: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Musings
Re: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)
Re: ST1100: Re: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Mu...
ST1100: Re:Works Performance Install
ST1100: Made it home
Re: ST1100: Did I See An Attachment??
Re: ST1100: Changing coolant hoses
RE: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)
Re: ST1100: ST in the news.
ST1100: Beautiful noise
ST1100: IBR style riding - MPH vs # stops
RE: ST1100: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Musings

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From: "ArTravlR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:08:28 -0500
Subject: ST1100: Gov't brake test

The following links are a US DOT study results of motorcycle brakes.  The first link 
is a PowerPoint presentation and the second is
an HTML version for other users.  I think it is interesting...

http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29wgs/wp29grrf/grrfinf/51/grrf5120.ppt

http://penneybros.org/mirror/  HTML version

Regards,

Robert Bashaw


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From: Mike Etlicher and/or Amy Kuelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:10:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ST1100: Off topic: Twins tickets for sale (tonight's game only)

My wife and I just decided we are both too sick to go to tonights
ALCS game at the Metrodome. Anyone interested in a pair of LL
reserved seats should call me at 651.248.6210 right away.

Section 137. Face value.

If you are a scalper, crawl back under that rock and don't bother
calling!

Mike Etlicher #1567
Minneapolis


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From: Edward Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue,  8 Oct 2002 18:09:44 -0500
Subject: Re: ST1100: Off topic: Twins tickets for sale (tonight's game only)

Did you catch the flu? I guess it's time to get my flu shot.

Ed Grant
Abilene, TX
STOC 866
> My wife and I just decided we are both too sick to go to tonights
> ALCS game at the Metrodome. Anyone interested in a pair of LL
> reserved seats should call me at 651.248.6210 right away.
> 
> Section 137. Face value.
> 
> If you are a scalper, crawl back under that rock and don't bother
> calling!
> 
> Mike Etlicher #1567
> Minneapolis

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From: "Steve Krusich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:26:39 -0700
Subject: ST1100: Laminar Lip and the new Clearview

I installed the Lip  on my latest design Clearview. I had to "stretch" the
Lip a little to match the contour of the Clearview but it installed
securely.

After a 1500 mile trip I am convinced the Lip worked!  The noise and
buffeting was noticeably and significantly lessened.  At 60 mph I could ride
with my Schuberth flip-up chinbar raised.

I recommend its use as it is now designed.

STeve
#1277


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From: Kim Leong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 16:31:09 -0700
Subject: ST1100: Gerbing

Wondering how many would be interested in a group buy on Gerbing products 
if I can make it happen.

Serious interest only please, these things are pricey  : )

Y'all ride and be safe now.

Kim
STOC 3073


Kim Leong
California Sport Touring
929 Alhambra Ave.
Martinez, CA  94553
Tel. 888 799-5445
http://www.casporttouring.com



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From: "Mark Frost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:32:36 -0700
Subject: ST1100: Re: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Musings

Courtney, were you using the Amsoil TS-17 air filter?

The two-stage foam filters (that's what the "TS" stands for) do filter like
a son of a gun, and they can be easily over-oiled.  I've never heard of one
being quite so restrictive, however.

Sorry to hear about the buzzard hit.  That sucks.

Mark Frost
STOC #1162
San Diego, Ca
'00 ABS


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From: "ItsaDogsLife" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:31:17 -0500
Subject: ST1100: more harley riders

amusing story....

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/1008BikersBeef-ON.html

Kevin Cox
Wheaton, IL
STOC #1946


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:42:25 -0500
Subject: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)

Things are going well with my restoring of my new ST.
All the parts have been ordered and most will be here tomorrow.
The Windshield is coming via a helpful STlister and thanks very much for that!
If luck is with me, I'll manage to get it on the road before the snow flies 
(and it flies early in Winnipeg)

What I'm looking for is a headlight protector.
I've just spent $280 on a new one and I'd like to keep it for awhile.  :)
Can anyone on the list suggest a good place to get one?
Is there an online site that the ST community likes to use?

Thanks in advance.

Greg



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From: "Pepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:06:17 -0700
Subject: RE: ST1100: more harley riders

WOW!

I didn't know them Hardley Ableto's could do 90 mph...he must've been goin'
downhill...


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From: mike schnoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)

Try http://www.stoneguard.com They were one of this
year's sponsors at Westoc. I think they charge only
about $16 for their headlight protection film for the
ST.

- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Things are going well with my restoring of my new
> ST.
> All the parts have been ordered and most will be
> here tomorrow.
> The Windshield is coming via a helpful STlister and
> thanks very much for that!
> If luck is with me, I'll manage to get it on the
> road before the snow flies 
> (and it flies early in Winnipeg)
> 
> What I'm looking for is a headlight protector.
> I've just spent $280 on a new one and I'd like to
> keep it for awhile.  :)
> Can anyone on the list suggest a good place to get
> one?
> Is there an online site that the ST community likes
> to use?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 


=====
Mike Schnoll
925-736-7192

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From: Bill Worobec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 17:15:04 -0700
Subject: Re: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)

Let me be the first to blast you with emails recommending Kim Leong at
www.casporttouring.com

For quick and cheap and courteous service.

_____________________________
Bill Worobec  STOC #2616
Vancouver, BC
2000 Dark Candy Red ST1100 ABS


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: October 08, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)


> Things are going well with my restoring of my new ST.
> All the parts have been ordered and most will be here tomorrow.
> The Windshield is coming via a helpful STlister and thanks very much for
that!
> If luck is with me, I'll manage to get it on the road before the snow
flies
> (and it flies early in Winnipeg)
>
> What I'm looking for is a headlight protector.
> I've just spent $280 on a new one and I'd like to keep it for awhile.  :)
> Can anyone on the list suggest a good place to get one?
> Is there an online site that the ST community likes to use?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Greg
>
>


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From: "Brent L. Harritt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:18:52 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: ST1100: Gov't brake test

The only thing interesting about this study is it's demonstration of the
lack of Government Fiscal responsibility.  This study proves nothing beyond
the obvious that a motorcycle with sticky street tires with outbrake a
motorcycle with dirt tires, hard cruiser type tires, or a scooter.  If they
had a BMW with and without ABS and a Honda with and without LBS, they might
have proved something.  

##############################################
Brent Harritt
1996 ST1100 -- Red Lightning
STOC #780, G.O.B. #1
Poway (near San Diego), California
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- -------Original Message-------

From: ArTravlR
Date: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 03:22:05 PM
To: Honda Sport Touring Association
Cc: ST list
Subject: ST1100: Gov't brake test

The following links are a US DOT study results of motorcycle brakes. The
first link is a PowerPoint presentation and the second is
an HTML version for other users. I think it is interesting...


http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29wgs/wp29grrf/grrfinf/51/grrf5120
ppt

http://penneybros.org/mirror/ HTML version

Regards,

Robert Bashaw


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 20:22:23 -0400
Subject: Re: ST1100: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Musings

Courtney,

May I congratulate you on some very thorough and articulate product reviews!  You 
should consider snapping a few shots of these products and submitting your reviews to 
MCN.

Jeff Bertrand
Ventura, CA
STOC 025

In a message dated 10/8/2002 3:26:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

>Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Musings


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From: "KENNETH L. BATTLE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 17:23:41 -0700
Subject: Re: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)

Contact Kim
http://www.casporttouring.com

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Things are going well with my restoring of my new ST.
> All the parts have been ordered and most will be here tomorrow.
> The Windshield is coming via a helpful STlister and thanks very much for that!
> If luck is with me, I'll manage to get it on the road before the snow flies
> (and it flies early in Winnipeg)
>
> What I'm looking for is a headlight protector.
> I've just spent $280 on a new one and I'd like to keep it for awhile.  :)
> Can anyone on the list suggest a good place to get one?
> Is there an online site that the ST community likes to use?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Greg


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:42:16 EDT
Subject: Re: ST1100: Re: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC 
Mu...

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Mark,
I have also used this same filter with the same results, way to restrictive. 
I completely washed it out in degreaser and a detergent, allowed to dry, and 
reoiled with a light coat of UniFilter spray oil. That helped, but I still 
had poor fuel milage and poor upper end performance. I am once again using 
the OEM filter as I could not readily find a K&N.

Preston Bebee
Buda, Texas
SToc 2969

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" 
LANG="0">Mark,<BR>
I have also used this same filter with the same results, way to restrictive. I 
completely washed it out in degreaser and a detergent, allowed to dry, and reoiled 
with a light coat of UniFilter spray oil. That helped, but I still had poor fuel 
milage and poor upper end performance. I am once again using the OEM filter as I could 
not readily find a K&amp;N.<BR>
<BR>
Preston Bebee<BR>
Buda, Texas<BR>
SToc 2969</FONT></HTML>

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From: "Randy Quam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:45:13 -0700
Subject: ST1100: Re:Works Performance Install

Mark asks about Works Perf shock install

Only fits one way.
You are correct, upside down and backwards. If you want a photo of mine on
the bike I will whip out to garage if needed and fire you off a jpeg.

You are in for a treat. The difference in ride continues to impress me even
after ~ 10 K Kms since install

Randy Quam
Vancouver BC

STOC#2761
99 STA
CrankenSTein

>>>From: "Mark Frost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:01:18 -0700
Subject: ST1100: Works Pro Racer shock.....

Anyone know of fitment problems with a Pro Racer on '96 and later ABS bikes?

Seems I recall comments that this shock had to be mounted backwards (with
the external shock reservoir facing forward, I guess) because of clearance
problems on an ABS bike.

http://www.worksperformance.com

Mark Frost
STOC #1162
San Diego, CA
'00 ABS<<<



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From: Rod Depperschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:04:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ST1100: Made it home

Made it home this afternoon about 4:00 from TexSTOC.  Had a GREAT time
and met quite few new (to me) liSTers that normally do not make it to
WeSTOC.  

The weather was great ('cept for drizzle the day I left) - from a low
of 30F in Utah this morning to a high of 92F in Texas the day I left. 
Per the GPS, 2983 total miles, average moving speed of 70.1 MPH and a
max speed of 131 MPH.  No performance awards, no tipovers - juST a lot
of FUN!!!

Thanks to Keith for making my firST TexSTOC a GREAT one!!
rod

=====
Rod Depperschmidt ~ STOC 0152 ~ Loveland, CO
 '02 ST1100A "STride II" ~ '97 KLR650 "STepchild"
 '91 ST1100  "STride"(2/00 - 2/01)
 '98 ST1100A "MiB"(4/98 - 8/99)
 '91 ST1100  "SilverSTreak"(4/91 - 4/98)
=====

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 22:25:36 -0400
Subject: Re: ST1100: Did I See An Attachment??

Yes, i had the ayyachment, and yes, it was a virus ... I blew it out, so I do not know 
what bug it might have been ... 

Dom


In a message dated 10/8/2002 2:18:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael Moore 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>During my quick morning perusing of email, I could've sworn I saw an
>attachment on one of recent liSTs (from the last 12 hours). �I thought the
>liST prohibited attachments, doesn't it? �With the nasty BugBear virus
>going around, I am concerned. �Did anyone else notice the attachment, and
>is everyone checking their systems for the BugBear virus? �If not, try
>www.symantec.com �
>
>Gotta be careful out there, in more ways than one! �I don't think a
>headlight modulator will prevent hard drives from crashing...
>
>Cheers!
>
>M2
>STOC 242
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do you Yahoo!?
>Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More
>http://faith.yahoo.com
>


- -- 
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Dom Isabella #894, HSTA 9910
1998 ST1100 �
Philadelphia, PA [WW3J]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 22:30:27 -0400
Subject: Re: ST1100: Changing coolant hoses

YMMV, but I my case, I swapped my OEM upper and lower radiator hoses @ 86,000 miles 
when I had my timing belt changed. The under carb hoses are OEM .. but I plan to swap 
them out this early fall ... 

Dom


In a message dated 10/8/2002 7:28:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Mick McHam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Recent posts have me wondering. What is a good mileage to swap out all
>coolant hoses?
>_____________________________________
>Mick McHam � � � Houston, Tx
>'99 ST1100A � � � Mick'S Toy
>STOC# 1134
>website: http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham
>
>


- -- 
- --
Dom Isabella #894, HSTA 9910
1998 ST1100 �
Philadelphia, PA [WW3J]


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From: "Benson Shiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:16:25 -0700
Subject: RE: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)

You better call Kim, He has all you need.

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Bill Worobec
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)

Let me be the first to blast you with emails recommending Kim Leong at
www.casporttouring.com

For quick and cheap and courteous service.

_____________________________
Bill Worobec  STOC #2616
Vancouver, BC
2000 Dark Candy Red ST1100 ABS


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: October 08, 2002 4:42 PM
Subject: ST1100: Latest in my ST restore. (need headlight protector)


> Things are going well with my restoring of my new ST.
> All the parts have been ordered and most will be here tomorrow.
> The Windshield is coming via a helpful STlister and thanks very much for
that!
> If luck is with me, I'll manage to get it on the road before the snow
flies
> (and it flies early in Winnipeg)
>
> What I'm looking for is a headlight protector.
> I've just spent $280 on a new one and I'd like to keep it for awhile.  :)
> Can anyone on the list suggest a good place to get one?
> Is there an online site that the ST community likes to use?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Greg
>
>


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From: Curtis R Spivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 23:05:35 -0600
Subject: Re: ST1100: ST in the news.

I think there are several folks on the liST that are pilots.  Including
me!

Curtis
'97 ST1100
'81 GL1100i
Nampa, Idaho

On Mon,  7 Oct 2002 12:02:11 -0500 Edward Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> I've got about 60 hours in cessna 150 and a couple other a/c.
> Never got my license though. Does being a crew-member on a
> B-52 count. ;-)
> 
> Ed Grant
> STOC 866
> 

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From: Curtis R Spivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 23:15:25 -0600
Subject: ST1100: Beautiful noise

I would have to say my all time favorite bike exhaust sound would be a
Valkarye with aftermarket pipes.  Sounds like a big block V8.  Makes a
Harley sound like a lawn mower.
I'm actually considering buying one from a friend.
Now, where to find the $9,000?

Curtis
'97 ST1100
'81 GL1100i
Nampa, Idaho

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 22:40:20 -0400
Subject: ST1100: IBR style riding - MPH vs # stops

FYI ... for me, I like to keep the bike right at 4000 rpm  on the slabs ... that is 
83mph (indicated). I seemed to have broken myself into that pace ... and I can get 49 
mpg on summer gas. 

Hovever, as the hours pass, I tend to creep up to the higher 4000 rpm range, and I 
have to back it down and keep an eye on speed.

Off the slabs, I will top out at 75 (conditions permitting), but there are some good 
streatches of road out there (off slabs) take can take the full 4000 rpm limit ... 

I like to top off at 300 - to 330 miles and take a 10 minute break, if its not too hot 
.. longer in the middle of the summer.

Dom
In a message dated 10/8/2002 1:43:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Joe Luma" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Thanks Jeff. �I guess trying to determine the fatique from stress is very
>subjective. �One rider would find 80 MPH stressful, another would be fine in
>3 digits. �I suppose for me, �the fastest comfortable speed is �10 over
>limit that I think I can get away with and not get a ticket <G>.
>
>-Joe-
>Joe & Chris
>Tower House Bed & Breakfast

- --
Dom Isabella #894, HSTA 9910
1998 ST1100 �
Philadelphia, PA [WW3J]


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From: "Michael Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 22:38:18 -0400
Subject: RE: ST1100: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC Musings

Hi Courtney:

Thanks for your post and detailed comments about the different aftermarket
windshields.

Something I can add from my own experience with Clearview aftermarket
windshields (the newer Generation III ones) - first, they wiggle around and
deform somewhat at speeds above about 110 mph, and second, they shatter into
jagged pieces when they break.  I'm not criticizing or complaining, just
pointing this out.

I had the opportunity this summer to bust two windshields, both because of
motorcycle rollovers.  The Clearview Gen III broke into about 8 pieces, with
surprisingly sharp corners on the pieces.  This was a static rollover,
meaning, the parked motorcycle fell over upside down into a ditch at the
side of the road, so there was no forward motion.

The other windshield, which was an OEM Honda ST1100 European spec (gray
smoke) one, bent over so badly that it had a big scuff on the backside where
it rubbed up against my Throttlemeister (!!!), but it didn't break, crack or
splinter, it just popped out of the mounting brackets. This was a result of
a lateral flipover into another ditch following a low-side.

FWIW.

Michael Moore
STOC 2636
Zurich

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ST1100: Laminar Lip, Buzzard Bait, Amsoil Air Filters, and TexSTOC
Musings

<snipped it all because it was a big post>

Courtney "Buzzard Bait" in Dallas



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