On 05/14/2014 07:09 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 05/12/2014 01:02 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 05/12/2014 10:16 AM, Aaron Lu wrote:
>>> On 05/12/2014 03:57 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> Like all of the other *30 ThinkPad models, the W530 has a broken acpi-video
>>>> backlight control. Note in order for this to actually fix things on the
>>>> ThinkPad W530 the commit titled:
>>>> "nouveau: Don't check acpi_video_backlight_support() before registering 
>>>> backlight"
>>>> is also needed.
>>>
>>> Note that the backlight_device_registered(raw) may return false as when
>>> acpi_video_verify_backlight_support is called, the nouveau driver may
>>> not run yet.
>>>
>>> Previously, we don't know anything about how laptops with nvidia graphics
>>> card alone control backlight in Win8, so the existing solution doesn't
>>> consider this case. If nvidia graphics system also should favour native
>>> backlight control interface in Win8, the current solution needs
>>> modifications.
>>
>> Hmm, how is this dealt with in the case of the intel gfx driver ?
> 
> Ok, I've figured out now how this is dealt with in the case of the intel gfx

Reading your other reply, I thought you already figured this out so I
didn't explain, sorry for that.

> drivers. That looks like something which will likely be hard to do for
> nouveau, since it relies on some intel gfx specific ACPI calls being there,
> which nouveau does not have. So this would require doing something like
> duplicating the nouveau pci-ids or some such, which would be far from ideal.
> 
> Still this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1093171
> 
> Shows that we need *working* video.use_native_brightness=1 support for
> non intel too. Which the current loading order issues caused by the
> backlight_device_registered(raw) breaks.
> 
> So maybe we should simply drop the backlight_device_registered(raw) check?

Unfortunately, there are indeed systems that with Intel GFX do not have
a GPU backlight control interface:

commit c675949ec58ca50d5a3ae3c757892f1560f6e896
Author: Jani Nikula <[email protected]>
Date:   Wed Apr 9 11:31:37 2014 +0300

    drm/i915: do not setup backlight if not available according to VBT

And I remembered last time when we push the use_native default to 1
without checking if a raw interface is available, there are people
complaining about no backlight interface is created on his system(and
the only working interface is acpi_video on his Win8 system). So simply
dropping this check doesn't seem like a good idea.

Thanks,
Aaron

> I don't think we really need it any win8 supporting laptop will have
> intel, nv or ati gfx, and all 3 of them have native backlight support,
> which if our experiences so far is any indication we will likely want
> to use instead of acpi_video.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1093171
>>>>
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <[email protected]>
>>>> ---
>>>>  drivers/acpi/video.c | 8 ++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/video.c b/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> index 34198b2..6a2099d 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/acpi/video.c
>>>> @@ -520,6 +520,14 @@ static struct dmi_system_id video_dmi_table[] 
>>>> __initdata = {
>>>>            },
>>>>    },
>>>>    {
>>>> +   .callback = video_set_use_native_backlight,
>>>> +   .ident = "ThinkPad W530",
>>>> +   .matches = {
>>>> +          DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "LENOVO"),
>>>> +          DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_VERSION, "ThinkPad W530"),
>>>> +          },
>>>> +  },
>>>> +  {
>>>>    .callback = video_set_use_native_backlight,
>>>>    .ident = "ThinkPad X1 Carbon",
>>>>    .matches = {
>>>>
>>>

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