Hi Jason:
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>Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:45:33 -0800
>From: "Connor, Jason" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [Stackless] Stackless Python included in the Softpedia
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>adidas will have a small group in Atlanta for Pycon as well. We've been
>lurking for about a year now and have a couple of small internal apps
>running with stackless/Twisted. Nothing major or groundbreaking or
>interesting though.
Sweet! I gave a talk two years ago on "Stackless Python Twisted Integration." I
think the two products inter-operate fairly well and over the past two years I
have a couple of ideas about making things more efficient. In the process, I
thought about stuff like design patterns (reactor, active objects, and
half-sync/half-async) and theoretical
models like I/O automata and simple operation management principles. I
touched on some the ideas in a recent talk to the Montreal Python users
group.
Having a MIS background, I am really interested about hearing about how
Stackless and Twisted are used in a business environment. Outside of my own
stuff, at the National Film Board of Canada, I wrote robots that simulated
Flash Players using Stackless, Twisted, and PyAMF.
> If anything it would be nice if there was at least a lightening talk
> or something.
If I show up I would love to give one. I wanted to do a 45 minute talk at Pycon
2010 talk but I decided against submitting. Also I wanted to try out ideas for
potential sections in Bruce Eckel's "Python 3K Design Patterns." I received
some good feedback from some of the bigger Pythonistas about improving the
talk.
>An O'Reilly book along the lines of what was done for Twisted would
>definitely be nice. Just something simple poke the attention of people.
Stackless would definitely benefit from a book. The Abe Fettig Twisted
book isn't the greatest. However the Fettig book has simple concrete
examples one could execute and modify. That is a big bonus.
I don't see why the Stackless community could not pitch in and write
a book: there is a lot of material ...
If I wrote a book, I guess it would be in the style of Tanenbaum's "Modern
Operating Systems" or Douglas Comer's "Operating Systems Design": discuss ideas
in the context of building a full-blown application. My app would be a toy
orchestration/workflow application. I don't think there is not much difference
between an orchestration engine and an online game with NPCs. I think the
message exchange patterns are more complicated in the former and there is a
greater onus on performance in the later.
I think the only real point of contention would be how networking
is done. In my Montreal talk, I discussed Twisted and Stacklesssocket.
In a book, I would like to touch on PyPy.
To speed up things I would probably need help in understanding what is
happening under the hood. Working on select() is improving my knowledge on this
front. Soon I will dive into PyPy.
Of course, I would love to hear what Christian and the Stackless community has
to say about this.
Happy Holidays,
Andrew
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