On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:47 PM, florent andré wrote:

> 
> 
> On 07/23/2011 08:36 PM, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
>> 
> ...
>> 
>>> - license issue: LMF might still use libraries that are released under 
>>> incompatible licenses, so this needs to be checked. In particular, 
>>> Hibernate is still licensed under LGPL, and it is one of the core libraries 
>>> of the LMF; porting to other persistence frameworks might require a lot of 
>>> effort
>> 
>> I don't know what's the ASF view on Hibernate. What are the alternatives ? 
>> EclipseLink is a viable alternative, I think, but it's licensed under the 
>> EPL. Does the ASF have a JPA project that's mature enough to replace 
>> Hibernate (OpenJPA ?) ?
> 
> ASF is not in love with Hibernate. :)
> Moreover if Hibernate is a required lib for the project.
> 
> http://cayenne.apache.org/
> Can be considered as an alternative.

First time I'm hearing about Cayenne (which is a first bad sign), and Cayenne 
doesn't seem to implement JPA, which is doubly a bad sign:

- It forces adherence to a non-standard way of doing things
- It forces a big rewrite of LMF which uses JPA.

  S.

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