Dear Stanbol contributors,

The point is to be able to use the Stanbol REST API even if technically
there's no way to control the request header parameters. (This is the case
when making a cross-site request from Internet Explorer 8 & 9)

So any of the discussed solutions that solve this are fine with me. This
feature would bring the usefulness of Stanbol a step forward in combination
with the VIE javascript library when used from Internet Explorer.

I hope someone  could implement it soon! Who?

Szaby

P.S.
Some of you stated that this discussion should happen on the stanbol-dev
list so I am moving this discussion now from the iks-wip list to the
stanbol-dev list. For those of you who are not on the iks-wip mailing list
here is the whole discussion again started on wednesday (the newest message
is at the bottom, sorry for that):


*VIE, Stanbol and Internet Explorer 8 & 9*
8 messages
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*Szabolcs Grünwald <[email protected]>* *9 November 2011
18:02*
To: iks-wip <[email protected]>
 Dear Stanbol and VIE developers,

As you may guess it's a rocky way to get something run on Internet
Explorer. Now I'm on this way of getting VIE and its Stanbol
Service running on it and I came to a painful point where I see dark in
terms of ever solving the problem of sending cross-domain requests (CORS is
implemented in Stanbol) from Internet Explorer 8 and 9 without to change
Stanbol's REST API.

In Chrome and Firefox the XMLHttpRequest object of the browser takes care
of the preflight requests (OPTIONS request before a cross-domain POST for
example). In Explorer this is not that easy. There's another object for
handling cross-domain requests, the XDomainRequest. This can be made to
allow cross-domain requests depending on trust zones of local, intranet and
internet. For handling the XDomainRequest we can use a special
jQuery.ajaxTransport, but the problem is this: the XDomainRequest object
has some limitations. [1]

The most painful of these limitations is that it's not possible to set
specific accept-headers on the requests, which is essential for using the
Stanbol REST API.

As Rupert and I tried to figure this out, we could only think about one
workaround:
Using GET parameters on the request URI for setting the access header.

Any ideas and thoughts how to solve this issue?

[1]
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2010/05/13/xdomainrequest-restrictions-limitations-and-workarounds.aspx

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Knowledge and Media Technologies
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*Olivier Grisel <[email protected]>* *9 November 2011 18:14*
To: Szabolcs Grünwald <[email protected]>
Cc: iks-wip <[email protected]>
I think we could indeed have dual content type negotiation handling.
For instance by using the a "format" query parameter if there and
falling back to the HTTP "Accept:" header if no "format" query
parameter is provided.

BTW if we decide to go this we should discuss this on the stanbol-dev
mailing list.

--
Olivier
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*Stefane Fermigier <[email protected]>**9 November 2011 21:17*
To: Olivier Grisel <[email protected]>
Cc: Szabolcs Grünwald <[email protected]>, iks-wip <
[email protected]>

On Nov 9, 2011, at 6:14 PM, Olivier Grisel wrote:

> I think we could indeed have dual content type negotiation handling.
> For instance by using the a "format" query parameter if there and
> falling back to the HTTP "Accept:" header if no "format" query
> parameter is provided.

Indeed. The CMIS browser binding specs authors seem to have had similar
issues, it might be worth looking at how they did solve them:

http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/cmis/trunk/BrowserBinding/specification/cmis-spec-v0.5-browserbinding.doc

> BTW if we decide to go this we should discuss this on the stanbol-dev
> mailing list.

Indeed.

 S.

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"Although I suffer from the defeats, I learn to achieve more victories, and
that's the essence of job satisfaction." - Gerald Weinberg
"There's no such thing as can't. You always have a choice." - Ken Gor

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*Reto Bachmann-Gmür <[email protected]>* *10 November 2011 00:03*
To: Olivier Grisel <[email protected]>
Cc: Szabolcs Grünwald <[email protected]>, iks-wip <
[email protected]>
I suggest to have optional query parameters starting with "header_" and
followed by the name of the header for any request uri. For this I suggest
adding a servlet filter that looks for such query parameters and forwards
the http request to the chain with the request header set to the value of
the query parameters. Such a module would not need to depend on any other
Stanbol module, as such it could also be used with other system using the
OSGi http service.

Reto

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*Reto Bachmann-Gmür <[email protected]>**10 November 2011 00:07*
To: Olivier Grisel <[email protected]>
Cc: Szabolcs Grünwald <[email protected]>, iks-wip <
[email protected]>
 I suggest to have optional query parameters starting with "header_" and
followed by the name of the header for any request uri. For this I suggest
adding a servlet filter that looks for such query parameters and forwards
the http request to the chain with the request header set to the value of
the query parameters. Such a module would not need to depend on any other
Stanbol module, as such it could also be used with other system using the
OSGi http service.

Reto

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Olivier Grisel <[email protected]> wrote:

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*Rupert Westenthaler <[email protected]>* *10
November 2011 08:15*
To: Reto Bachmann-Gmür <[email protected]>
 Cc: iks-wip <[email protected]>

On 10.11.2011, at 00:07, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote:

I suggest to have optional query parameters starting with "header_" and
followed by the name of the header for any request uri. For this I suggest
adding a servlet filter that looks for such query parameters and forwards
the http request to the chain with the request header set to the value of
the query parameters. Such a module would not need to depend on any other
Stanbol module, as such it could also be used with other system using the
OSGi http service.

Sounds like a good Idea.

One problem might be that Servlet Filters are not supported by the default
OSGI HttpService [1]. Therefore the registration of Filter is OSGI platform
specific (e.g the ExtHttpService in the case of Apache Felix [2]). An other
option may be the use of PaxWeb [3].

any experiences?
Rupert

BTW: I do already use Filters based on the Apache Felix ExtHttpService for
registering SolrDispatchFilters - so a Solution that works independent of
the used OSGI platform would also be great for this functionality

[1] http://www.osgi.org/javadoc/r4v42/org/osgi/service/http/HttpService.html
[2]
http://felix.apache.org/site/apache-felix-http-service.html#ApacheFelixHTTPService-UsingtheExtHttpService
[3] http://team.ops4j.org/wiki//display/paxweb/Pax+Web

Reto

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Olivier Grisel <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think we could indeed have dual content type negotiation handling.
> For instance by using the a "format" query parameter if there and
> falling back to the HTTP "Accept:" header if no "format" query
> parameter is provided.
>
> BTW if we decide to go this we should discuss this on the stanbol-dev
> mailing list.
>
> --
> Olivier
>

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*Reto Bachmann-Gmür <[email protected]>**10 November 2011 10:53*
To: Rupert Westenthaler <[email protected]>
Cc: iks-wip <[email protected]>


On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 10.11.2011, at 00:07, Reto Bachmann-Gmür wrote:
>
> I suggest to have optional query parameters starting with "header_" and
> followed by the name of the header for any request uri. For this I suggest
> adding a servlet filter that looks for such query parameters and forwards
> the http request to the chain with the request header set to the value of
> the query parameters. Such a module would not need to depend on any other
> Stanbol module, as such it could also be used with other system using the
> OSGi http service.
>
> Sounds like a good Idea.
>
> One problem might be that Servlet Filters are not supported by the default
> OSGI HttpService [1]. Therefore the registration of Filter is OSGI platform
> specific (e.g the ExtHttpService in the case of Apache Felix [2]). An other
> option may be the use of PaxWeb [3].
>

I suggest we just register a javax.servlet.*Filter* service (whiteboard
pattern), I think this works both with felix and with pax-web.

Cheers,
Reto


>
> any experiences?
> Rupert
>
> BTW: I do already use Filters based on the Apache Felix ExtHttpService for
> registering SolrDispatchFilters - so a Solution that works independent of
> the used OSGI platform would also be great for this functionality
>
> [1]
> http://www.osgi.org/javadoc/r4v42/org/osgi/service/http/HttpService.html
> [2]
> http://felix.apache.org/site/apache-felix-http-service.html#ApacheFelixHTTPService-UsingtheExtHttpService
> [3] http://team.ops4j.org/wiki//display/paxweb/Pax+Web
>
> Reto
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Olivier Grisel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think we could indeed have dual content type negotiation handling.
>> For instance by using the a "format" query parameter if there and
>> falling back to the HTTP "Accept:" header if no "format" query
>> parameter is provided.
>>
>> BTW if we decide to go this we should discuss this on the stanbol-dev
>> mailing list.
>>
>> --
>> Olivier
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [email protected]
>> http://lists.interactive-knowledge.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iks-wip
>>
>
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