On 05/29/2008 1:42 PM, Robert McQueen wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Olivier CrĂȘte also wondered why in Jingle ICE-UDP a transport-info
>> message is restricted to containing only one ICE candidate, rather than
>> allowing multiple candidates:
>>
>> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2008-April/018554.html
>>
>> Olivier pointed out that allowing a transport-info message to contain
>> multiple candidates would be more consistent with the SDP offer/answer
>> model, thus making it easier to write clients that support both Jingle
>> and SIP as well as gateways between Jingle and SIP. However, it is my
>> understanding that this approach would be inconsistent with the approach
>> taken by Google Talk as well as any existing Jingle implementations.
>> Therefore feedback would be appreciated regarding the implications of
>> such a change.
> 
> It's not very hard for us to support both - our media engine tells us
> when it's done gathering candidates so that we can generate SDP offers,
> so similarly, we can generate a "one-shot" all-candidate offer. And,
> processing several candidates received can easily be split up if necessary.
> 
> So I'd be in favour of making things more similar and allowing offers of
> all of the candidates, and offering the ability to trickle candidates
> (which I think the ICE RFC got rid of, but I've not checked recent
> drafts)

Yes IIRC that went away at some point.

> as an optimisation which may allow you to connect sooner, a la
> Google Talk.

In VoIP people seem to care a lot about connecting sooner. :)

If we don't allow this, then at least we may want to define how a
gateway should handle trickled candidates (wait x seconds and bundle them?).

> FWIW, our Jingle implementation only implements the Google Talk
> compatible transport at the moment anyway, so we can meet any reasonable
> XEP modifications. We've got a full ICE implementation but we've not
> connected it up with our XMPP signalling yet. Hopefully within a month
> or two so we can do some interop testing.

Coolio.

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
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