On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:55:28 -0600
Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pavel Simerda wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:27:22 -0600
> > Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Pavel Simerda wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:18:43 -0500
> >>> XMPP Extensions Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/direct-invitations.html
> >>> Hmm, good idea, this simple direct invitation protocol, it makes
> >>> sense to send invitation to the people I invite.
> >> Well that's what we had in the old days ("jabber:x:conference"),
> >> but then we made something fancier in XEP-0045. Fancier isn't
> >> always better.
> >>
> >>> Just a sidenote, couldn't "venue" be replaced with something more
> >>> specific and well known in the XMPP community (e.g. "conference").
> >>> It might also come first in the example, as it's the only
> >>> important (and REQUIRED) element.
> >> Sure, <conference> is fine with me.
> >>
> >>> Also, more about authorization and relation to other XEPs would be
> >>> nice. Passwords are IMO not a good *default* authorization
> >>> technique for MUC rooms.
> >> I agree. But that's something we should define in XEP-0045 -- or
> >> even deprecate password-only rooms in favor of members-only rooms.
> >>
> >>> It seems MUC authorization was removed from [xep 0235]. Isn't now
> >>> the time to find a better place for it?
> >> Maybe. I'm not sure how useful MUC authorization is.
> > 
> > A members-only room is an authorized MUC room - the list of members
> > becomes the list of authorized entities.
> > 
> > But then what is an invitation for? You have to make someone a
> > member and send him an invitation message. But for this, you have
> > to be able to add members.
> 
> I don't think the concept of an invitation-only room makes much
> sense, especially because we don't have ways of delivering secure
> invitations (right now invitations are more social interactions, not
> technical interactions, and I think we might want to leave it that
> way).

But i thought I've seen some members-only rooms.

> Peter
> 


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