Pavel Simerda wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:02:24 +0100
> Artur Hefczyc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>>> While reviewing XEP-0186 just now, I noticed that when a resource
>>> goes invisible, its server must send presence of type unavailable
>>> from that resource. As far as I can see, when a contact's server
>>> receives unavailable presence from the user (and if the
>>> user+contact have a two-way presence subscription), it will stop
>>> sending presence updates to
>>> the user (if that was the last online resource for the user). This
>>> somewhat defeats the purpose of invisibility, no? The implication is
>>> that the user's information about the presence of its contacts
>>> will soon
>>> become stale. But I suppose that's one price you pay for
>>> invisibility, which I continue to think is a stupid concept
>>> anyway. :)
>>
>> I thought we gave up with invisibility anyway. Especially that this
>> can be quite easily achieved with privacy lists without those
>> unwanted side effects. And privacy lists give us much more
>> flexibility to set invisibility
>> for a single user, group.....
> 
> I'm afraid you missed one thing. These unwanted side effects can't be
> avoided. Therefore privacy lists have them too, of course.

Right. As far as I can see, there is no way to avoid unwanted side
effects with invisibility (no matter whether it is implemented via
XEP-0018, XEP-0126, or XEP-0186).

Peter

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