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On 4/25/09 11:42 AM, Jiří Zárevúcký wrote:
> 2009/4/25 Paul Aurich <[email protected]>:
>> I think it's critical to distinguish user-generated traffic from
>> client-generated outgoing stanzas.  I agree with Will that, for the former,
>> this is a really frustrating UI and I'd hate my client for doing it.
>>
> 
> I think that's exactly the problem in question. User can explicitly
> generate traffic without him knowing. You generate traffic by opening
> a window. You generate it by displaying your contact's information.
> You can even generate it by hovering mouse over your contact in
> roster. 

That's one of the many reasons why invisibility is so stupid.

> Ordinary users don't understand the technology and should be
> warned. I still think it is implementation and configuration issue.
> The "don't ask again" checkbox is really a no-brainer.

Sure, that's fine.

Before we can productively argue (?) about XEP-0186, we'd need to see
some implementations of it in clients and servers. Do we have those?

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

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