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On 9/19/09 4:47 AM, Matthew Wild wrote:
> 2009/9/19 Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]>:
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>> On 9/18/09 8:31 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>> As copied from the Radar page...
>>>
>>> Experimental XEPs are automatically deferred after 12 months of
>>> inactivity. The following XEPs are set to be automatically deferred
>>> within the next ~30 days.
>>>
>>>     * XEP-0181: Jingle DTMF
>> I'd like to see that one move forward, but I'll poke Sean Egan about it
>> to see what the thinks.
>>
> 
> Not being a client/Jingle developer, yes, I'll leave it to someone
> else to decide on the usefulness of this XEP. It sure /looks/ useful
> :)

IIRC, Robert McQueen thought that we could define this but then advance
the spec when someone is actually using it.

>>>     * XEP-0194: User Chatting
> 
> I've heard people (perhaps it was the Gajim crowd?) planning to
> implement this, let's see how it goes.
> 
>>>     * XEP-0195: User Browsing
>>>     * XEP-0196: User Gaming
>>>     * XEP-0197: User Viewing
> 
> These are all things which aren't used right now (as far as I know)
> but still something that should be standardised when they are (I'm
> sure at least User Browsing will be).
> 
> Perhaps it is better to let them drop now though, and revive if/when 
> necessary?

Agreed. We'll keep them in our back pocket.

>>>     * XEP-0168: Resource Application Priority
> 
> Did anyone end up implementing this? It seems another stab at trying
> to rid us of negative priorities, which still seems to have a
> dedicated following :)
> 
>>>     * XEP-0152: Reachability Addresses
> 
> I think this is best addressed by an updated user profile (not
> necessarily User Profile) XEP.

I think we can let those two lapse.

>>>     * XEP-0225: Component Connections
>> IMHO it would be great to work on this, although Jack Moffitt has
>> questioned how useful any kind of external component protocol really is
>> (given that you serializing and deserializing XML is expensive).
>>
> 
> +1 to keeping this alive, it's something I'm quite interested in.
> Regardless of efficiency, components are very popular, they are a
> great way to implement services, and can be load-balanced, etc. We
> should definitely keep the ball rolling in this area.
> 
> Regarding efficiency, by using a more "standard" XMPP stream, it would
> allow components to negotiate compression, or other more efficient
> encodings of the stream such as XEP-0239.

I would love to see some further progress in this area.

>>>     * XEP-0186: Invisible Command
>> I don't like invisibility in general, but if we're going to have it then
>> I'd at least like to do so in an intelligent way. Perhaps XEP-0186 is it.
>>
> 
> Yes, I think it is (I'm also interested in solving invisibility to an
> extent). It's a mess right now, but I'll re-read the XEPs some time
> and see which one I would rather implement and improve :)

I must admit that I can't get all excited about invisibility...

Peter

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