On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6/16/10 12:21 PM, Yann Leboulanger wrote: >> On 06/16/2010 08:15 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Peter >>> Saint-Andre<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I just had an interesting conversation with "yagiza" about XEP-0184, >>>> which he has said I can paste here. The general idea is: do we need >>>> something in XEP-0184 to indicate that a message has been read by the >>>> intended recipient? This would be similar to the<displayed/> element in >>>> XEP-0022. I'm not convinced that we need this feature in XEP-0184, and >>>> tried to explain why to yagiza. Further discussion is welcome on this >>>> list. I've attached the log of my chat with yagiza for context. >>> >>> The text already says that the receipt isn't sent until the message is >>> presented to the user, which seems to be exactly the behaviour >>> discussed - that the message was in the window the user had selected >>> at the time. So the XEP already covers this. >>> >>> What it doesn't cover is acking messages as soon as the client has >>> received them and before they're presented to the user - we have 198 >>> to do exactly that. >> >> It's not what I understood from this XEP, and it's not what is >> implemented in Gajim. >> >> Requirements says "Enable a sender to request notification that an XMPP >> message stanza has been received." received here doesn't mean displayed >> IMHO. > > I agree with Yann and disagree with Kev. > > received does not mean displayed
Agreed. > displayed does not mean read Agreed. > displayed *might mean* marked-as read Agreed. But the last one: "presented" does mean "displayed". /K
