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On Aug 22, 2012, at 15:42, Mark Rejhon wrote: > Is this politics-proof: > > "TTY (derived from teletypewriter) and text telephones" > > I don't like it, but I am going to leave it unmodified (against M&M > wishes) unless there's a consensus. > Since it *WAS*, but is no longer, an acronym, I'm ok with this. Is there an authoritative citation you can provide? > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden <[email protected]> > wrote: >> agree >> >> You can say >> >> TTY was derived from Teletypewriter - a device originally used by people who >> are deaf to communicate. But today Teletypewriters no longer exist and TTY >> is used to refer to a type of telecommunications device used by people who >> are deaf that supports Baudot (and sometimes other coding schemes) over >> analog phone lines. >> >> that however is probably too much history. but if you are using >> Teletypewriter - that would be the \correct way to use it. >> >> >> Gregg >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Gregg Vanderheiden Ph.D. >> Director Trace R&D Center >> Professor Industrial & Systems Engineering >> and Biomedical Engineering >> University of Wisconsin-Madison >> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Gunnar Hellström <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> On 2012-08-22 22:58, Mark Rejhon wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Matthew Miller >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 14:42, Mark Rejhon wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Matthew Miller >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> * Teletypewriter (TTY) and Text Device for the Deaf (TDD) telephones >> [citations recommended] >> >> Consulted with some peers. >> >> TTY expansion to Teletypewriter -- OK, good idea. >> TDD is actually correctly "Telecommunications Device for the Deaf", >> but it is deprecated usage right now by most U.S. accessibility >> organizations, in favour of TTY. Europeans ofte use "textphones", and >> variants thereof. >> >> Also, the phrase "text telephones" is more compatible and >> self-explanatory with the European equivalent of TTY, "textphones". >> >> It's somewhat political behind the scenes in the various communities, >> so changes to this bullet will need to be done very carefully. I >> spent many hours rewording just the Introduction as a result. >> >> Mark Rejhon >> >> That's fine. I accept I operate under obsolete assumptions sometimes (-: >> >> But it's important that all acronyms are expanded the first time they are >> used, and even better to include an authoritative citation. >> >> Oh, you might also be remembering I had >> >> ... "TTY and text telephones for the deaf". >> >> But I removed "for the deaf", when Peter/Kevin (one or both) >> complained about three mentions of the word "deaf" due to the >> overemphasis on the word, despite its clear application there. So I >> toned it down somewhat, reducing three mentions of "deaf" in >> Introduction to just one mention. >> >> I do not think expansion of TTY to Teletypewriter is a good idea. That tends >> to mean the other use of the term TTY, the device that was often used as a >> computer operator console terminal a long time ago and still lives in >> language around such usage. >> >> So TTY in this usage is more " A term used in North America for text >> telephones, i.e. devices used for text and audio communication in the PSTN >> mainly with deaf and hard-of-hearing persons." >> >> Text telephones or textphones is the international term used by ITU-T ( E.g. >> V.18 and F.703 ) 3GPP ( e.g. TS 22.226 ) >> IETF ( e.g. RFC 4734 ). >> Various countries in Europe have different names for the concept in their >> national languages, so text telephone is not specifically European. >> >> I hope it is clear by combining TTY with text telephone what it referred to, >> so that we do not need to drag in a long descriptions of a peripheral item >> into the spec. >> >> Gunnar >> >> - - m&m Matthew A. Miller <http://goo.gl/LK55L> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQNVdKAAoJEJq6Ou0cgrSPHeAH/2sX+65a9yiHGS+U6WXCztaF 1ku/80QIx2HdsxEPNR43x2UmfOuOLzpsStB9CPhMrXiKLPx6vXhI0w18phjvtxOd 4GNpjRWsrMCiys4pEbro5tCBVonvtJmRNxZx6HnaqwARJKTASHq6yia5Sc3c+3T6 gyhIFLtvCfE3k7JtZkgXsg5yChSz6zIcSyLOIipG1cyIoftJCRIvtvo4+Ph2m0cU NzgC02pj66DSh1syNrCnpH09IJrQNbhOcnb5KeXVLZDSFjomvkgpWqzZ65LHZ7vR 65zpGPQ3ncnNuZNrEXxjgPAlDZilcLZZOCZFCKee0rEdms9Lp2rLiq4d1j4mJ5U= =gOyw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
