Sorry for the double, please consider this message as wrong. On 10/08/2012 11:36 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: > On 10/01/2012 11:18 PM, Kozlov Konstantin wrote: >> Hello! > Hello Konstantin, > >> >> 28.09.2012, 16:23, "Sergey Dobrov" <[email protected]>: >>> On 09/28/2012 06:35 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> >>>>> Another bigger problem is smilies. It's not obvious when the >>>>> client should render smilies and when not. I'd prefer to forbid any >>>>> text-based smilies in the XHTML-IM content >>>> Some of us actually prefer textual emoticons. :) >>> >>> Actually, me too :) But them have some problems to parse here, it adds >>> some extra <img> tags actually in the mark up. :) So I'd prefer client >>> to replace textual smilies BEFORE send them to the network. Obviously, >>> the plain text representation of a message will be unchanged. >>> >>>> Feel free to look at the old XEP-0038 for further considerations. >>>>> but such way we really need a standardized way to attach images to >>>>> a body. >>>> IMHO that would be XEP-0231. >>> >>> Yes, it seems to be pretty good here but it will be impossible to read >>> images when your competitor is offline that can be nasty. But I don't >>> know how to solve the problem anyway. >> >> The only solution I see is adding special considerations for smilies. The >> smilies should be converted to some special type of images to allow client >> on the other side translate it. >> I can suggest two possible syntaxes: >> 1. <img /> element without "src" attribute at all, which "alt" attribute >> contains textual representation of the smilie, so translator either >> translate it and display smilie image, or display alternative text if it >> cannot translate (or do not want to translate it at all, eg. smilie >> tranlation is diabled). > Unfortunately, we have to be compatible with XHTML, I think :) > >> 2. <img /> element with "src" attribute, containing URL with special scheme >> (eg. "smilie:"), whith path, containing properly escaped textual >> representation of the smilie. > > Don't know how complex a process of inventing a new URI schema but I > think that actually transmission of smilies as images is okay too but it > needs to be thought over and over again :) > >> >> With my best regards, >> Konstantin >> > >
-- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder.
