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On 1/25/13 3:47 AM, Stefan Strigler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> within Section 3.5[1] XMPP over Websocket states that "the closing 
> party MUST close the XMPP stream if it has been established". With 
> hindsight of page transitions within legacy web apps this might
> not be wanted by the client as it might wish to resume the stream
> by use (abuse?) of XEP-0198 or some other technique.
> 
> Now my questions are:
> 
> * Is there some other best practice known how to deal with page 
> transitions other than XEP-0198? * Would XEP-0198 be well suited
> for this scenario? * Do we need/want to support this scenario after
> all within this Draft? If not, why?
> 
> Maybe this could be just one more topic on the summits agenda next 
> week. I've seen there's already quite some demand discussing
> things regarding web related topics.

The page transitions topic definitely needs to be explored. IIRC we
had some discussion about it at Summit 12 in Portland last year, and
some rough notes about it might be here:

http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/summit/2012-October/001200.html

As to XEP-0198 + XMPP over WebSocket, I do see a place for stream
management. BOSH contains several features to make connection
management easier (sid/rid), and we copied some of that into the TCP
binding with XEP-0198. Because WebSocket is supposed to be "TCP for
the Web", it doesn't natively include the kind of stream management
features that we built into BOSH. Thus using XEP-0198 when doing XMPP
over WebSocket makes sense to me.

> [1] 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-01#section-3.5

IMHO
> 
that spec needs quite a bit of work, still. New editors might be
required to get it done. However, it appears that this document will
probably become an official work item of the XMPP WG at the IETF (I
sent proposed charter text to the chairs last night), so discussion
there might be appropriate at some point too.

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/


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