It's hard to remember XEP-303 for me now, but I remember that it was
VERY complex so I didn't want to work with it anyway.

The second thing is that it's really not hard to create a new XEP for
commenting based on the current XEP-277, but there are many many
problems with Pubsub itself which are needed to be solved first. I am
trying to work with things as is but it's really hard to do smth good
with them. At the other hand, I really have no idea how to win XSF
bureaucracy and move things forward. I was constantly raising issues
that was important in real life open pubsub protocols which also were
supported with other people who interested in the pubsub blogging but I
had no ANY feedback and any advice on how to move things forward.

So I really suppressed with this and I don't know if there any profit to
contribute into these conversations, who will do actual changes? It
seems to me that nobody cares and the only thing can now make a progress
are things-in-itselves like buddycloud because they don't need to listen
and wait to everybody and they can just build they own protocols.

Don't you want to talk over this problem first? Do you have similar fears?

On 03/11/2013 12:36 AM, Goffi wrote:
> G'day,
> 
> I'm implementing comments in my client (http://sat.goffi.org), so I
> bring up this long and interesting conversation because I think there
> are some points which still need some discussion:
> 
> - I think that comments must not be in XEP-0277 but in a separate one:
> comments are not only useful for microblogging. There are good points in
> XEP-0303, but I don't like the activity stream idea, and I more think
> like Sergey that the same goal can be achieved with a more generic
> pubsub journal XEP. The issue with the 303 is that the pubsub service
> should have a different behaviour to compile the activity stream to the
> /comments node, that mean a service dedicated to comments and a
> management depending on node name, which is not really KISS.
> 
> - ordering/filtering is actually needed, as suggested by Justin. Maybe
> not url encoded but more with some kind of option in the stanza
> 
> - what about anonymous comments ?
> 
> Anyway, we should definitely avoid 2 XEPs for comments.
> 
> I wander if I'm missing something, so if anybody has tried an
> implementation of the XEP-0303 and/or XEP-0277, please give feedbacks.
> 
> Cheers
> Goffi
> 


-- 
With best regards,
Sergey Dobrov,
XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder.

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