Unless I am missing something, those XEPs seem to solve different problems. 0085 tells you whats happening on the other end and 0184 seemingly by design is only delivery confirmation -- its beneficial to the sender, not the recipient. I am looking for something that helps the recipient know which of their messages still need their attention. With a user base switching between devices and potentially logging in and out very frequently, this can be very important.
I can only imagine how much back and forth there must have been over this topic. These specifications are mature and clearly a lot of thought went into each one. I say I was surprised because its a table-stakes feature for e-mail and it would seem to me that opening a chat parallels opening an e-mail. Noah On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]>wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 4/1/13 3:58 PM, Noah Schwartz wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > My name is Noah Schwartz. New to this list and have been working on > > a chat platform for the past 3 months. > > > > I'm looking to add support for message read status and was > > surprised to not find an XEP for this. > > In what ways do XEP-0085 and XEP-0184 not solve the problem? > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0085.html > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0184.html > > And please do realize that we've had many discussions about whether > you can really know if the recipient has actually read the messages; > we've always concluded that this is impossible. > > Peter > > - -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRWi7gAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pOTsQAIIWZt7zv3ulkAuUc2ATzKxb > 0suMhpx4jJhUkLvhYf9N4e/3YP422jKj6kwI0yPy1jflGKyQuFfIWnMfNv3flHvM > CAg1htQD4Kclqmtq/qYNg3yRpIwTyn5Hjx4Af2cJsrj/M922A+lu4oBX7q2+/FuH > BAFz6xgW9Af5rUnx0j7JR/dDQoPH9m+27j208o3gkuaPl37Bh/x7aNGbNUydWshj > mswyWwMKf84uvOIYwt28/qW83GTl9yAn4Dfwuj7hiwczbu0mix3TC/clAsslABF7 > 0mkwPB9MnpU3WNDEC6JUIJVP3fYzvR63yyK63veAhA0Dpsivp5U7/DjvLlDvhp2Q > 7/hT3HiiJm+lpMpgyLTjqaXL4KcDtaorWbkGP17hmSB8LGttTPzKj45rRaO2SvPd > nKt7OpReW63rmccnaWgj0F95hST0xaSnJTrobyYv4yiFDEoQT8vGoBRrwDnbJJ7H > njF7pXnB1Wu8gOvcEU9GmI7USM1fRKP67N5hAZSUaKakJQFXM8mxzOdZJhOnxAK+ > ZYn+0MgXRfGDM8mnHdrUqyVMyWJqs9ypIEpBW9W+z+Ht68f97EAHe112+O8l9aKJ > sNFaKC182Ju5OTl18/TTYaSRRDtQqagfZR3Rz0ElK04JBGqFIRLSLoDBuzk7JRTK > ZoU5jtbsTjzsRiMeqStJ > =dMtc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Noah
