Yes, it is better now.

-Teemu

2013/12/10 Peter Waher <[email protected]>:
> Hello Teemu
>
> Thanks for the feedback. The description in §7.3.2 was perhaps a bit 
> minimalistic. I extended it as follows:
>
> Event messages could be published using Publish-Subscribe. Unless there's 
> absolute control of who can subscribe to the information published in this 
> manner, the information should be considered open and freely available. In 
> such cases extra care should be taken to not publish information of a 
> sensitive nature, or information that can be mined for information, behavior 
> patterns, trends, etc., that can be viewed as being of a sensitive nature. If 
> there's a risk that either absolute control cannot be achieved and 
> information is of a sensitive nature, this pattern should be avoided.
>
> Ok?
>
> Best regards,
> Peter Waher
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teemu Väisänen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: den 10 december 2013 14:37
> To: XMPP Standards; Peter Waher
> Subject: Re: [Standards] eventlogging xeps
>
> Hi Peter.
>
> Section 7.3.2 Publish/Subscribe describes: "Event messages could be published 
> using Publish-Subscribe. But, even more care should be taken to log only 
> information that can be published openly. If there's risk for sensitive 
> information to be logged, the publish/subscribe pattern should be avoided."
>
> If information is sensitive, the information should not be logged, as said in 
> 7.2. Do you mean that if sensitive information is still sent using pubsub, 
> there are more actors (pubsub server, subscribers) that might log and/or leak 
> the sensitive information and because of that the pubsub pattern should be 
> avoided?
>
> Would it be wise to move the second line "But, even more care should be taken 
> to log only information that can be published openly.", e.g., to section 7.2. 
> because it relates also to other cases than pubsub?
>
> Could the last sentence be something more like: "If there's risk for 
> sensitive information to be logged, the publish/subscribe pattern should be 
> avoided in systems that contain any not trusted or any uncontrolled actors." 
> That is because we could have a setup where we have a trusted pubsub server 
> and we log (also) sensitive information in several trusted 
> subscribers/loggers.
>
> BR, Teemu
>
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