The Buddycloud pusher approach is

   - Run as a component
   - be generic: don't care about the specific push service (email, Google,
   Apple, next-big-thing)
   - Give users a way to enable/disable it
   - Advertise it as a service using SRV records (virtual host for other
   domains that don't want to run a full push service)

Would be nice to think about how push notifications could work with some of
the SIFT specs. Eg: a new <message> would trigger a push, wake an Android
App, sync, kill connection, go back to not keeping an open connection.
Daniele - will you be at the Summit?

S.


On 21 January 2014 11:53, Steffen Larsen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes but the approach that this bodycloud component (XEP-0114) could easily
> be written into more or less a XEP.
>
> /Steffen
>
> On 21 Jan 2014, at 11:51, Daniele Ricci <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I was thinking of a more specific (and simpler) approach to just using
> > push notification services. Buddycloud is much more than that.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Abmar Barros <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> It sounds like what we've been doing with the buddycloud pusher:
> >> https://github.com/buddycloud/buddycloud-pusher.
> >>
> >> We currently use it to send GCM and emails regarding buddycloud-related
> >> events, as per its documentation, but it can be easily extended to push
> any
> >> XMPP event to any pusher service, eg.: Apple's, SMS.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Abmar
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Daniele Ricci <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello list,
> >>> I was thinking of writing a XEP for sending a sender ID (Google Cloud
> >>> Messaging) or a device token (Apple Push Notification Service) or any
> >>> other push notification service token (that is, a generic one) to the
> >>> server.
> >>> Almost all push notification services works the same way: the server
> >>> provides a provider ID to the client and the client provides a device
> >>> token to the server.
> >>>
> >>> I was thinking of using service discovery to advertise the service
> >>> from a server:
> >>>
> >>> <iq from='example.com' type='result' id='H-2' to='[email protected]'>
> >>>  <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#items'
> >>> node='http://jabber.org/extensions/presence#push'>
> >>>    <item node='SENDER-ID' jid='gcm.push.example.com' name='Google
> >>> Cloud Messaging'/>
> >>>    <item node='PROVIDER-ID' jid='apns.push.example.com' name='Apple
> >>> Push Notification Service'/>
> >>>    <item ... />
> >>> </query>
> >>> </iq>
> >>>
> >>> In the "node" attribute I'd put the provider ID I was talking about
> >>> earlier.
> >>>
> >>> Device token could be sent using a presence update from the client:
> >>>
> >>> <presence>
> >>>  <status>...</status>
> >>>  ...
> >>>  <c xmlns='http://jabber.org/extensions/presence#push
> >>> provider='gcm.push.example.com'>REGISTRATION-ID</c>
> >>> </presence>
> >>>
> >>> (that would need to be filtered by the server before broadcasting the
> >>> presence update though, for security reasons).
> >>>
> >>> Or an iq to the push notification address could be used:
> >>>
> >>> <iq to='gcm.push.example.com'>
> >>>  <token
> >>> xmlns='http://jabber.org/extensions/presence#push
> '>DEVICE-TOKEN</token>
> >>> </iq>
> >>>
> >>> I'd really appreciate some feedback. I think it would be a useful XEP.
> >>> Regards,
> >>> --
> >>> Daniele
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Abmar Barros
> >> MSc in Computer Science from the Federal University of Campina Grande -
> >> www.ufcg.edu.br
> >> OurGrid Team Leader - www.ourgrid.org
> >> Buddycloud Dev - www.buddycloud.org
> >> Paraíba - Brazil
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniele
>
>


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