Old, nay ancient, thread alert!

On 9/17/12, 2:31 PM, Philipp Hancke wrote:
While searching for the design guideline that says "don't put big things
inside a presence stanza, use PEP" I found XEP-0134 and it almost had
what I was looking for:

Finally, as explained in XMPP Core, the <presence/> stanza exists to
broadcast network and communications availability only; for more
advanced information publishing, use Publish-Subscribe [7].

This is somewhat outdated, you'd use PEP for that. There are several
other points where this is outdated. How comes nobody ever noticed that
(Peter has an excuse -- he was expecting feedback)?

My effort may be in vain since google doesn't seem to consider 0134 to
be important but I'll raise (some of) the issues anyway. Specifically:
2.1: XMPP is Sacred
     well, it's a hard process, but making changes is possible.
     The reference to XEP-0060 ought to be replaced by one to 0163
     obviously.

2.2: how long has groupchat been deprecated? 8 years at least? Doesn't
strike me as a good example these days.

2.3: jingle/ice might be a better example.

2.4.: oh, this section still calls it "Jabber" :-)

2.5: again, jingle would be a better example.

Generally, i think this document is really 2004! Alot has changed since
then. XEP-0115 (in it's current revision) certainly impacts the design
of new extensions, as does PEP. Are things like SI (XEP-0095) still
relevant?

Yes, that document is probably well out of date now. Do we feel it would be worth the effort to bring it into the modern world?

Peter

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