On 17 June 2015 at 20:52, Curtis King <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > Many moons past, before the dawn of a couple of years ago, we had things > like XEP-0302, which declared that - excitingly - advanced servers might > want to implement PEP. > > > > I think that these days, any server should be doing PEP. I suspect we're > nearing the point where we need to consider Carbons as a "Core", rather > than "Advanced”. > > When was Carbons even listed as Advanced? > > Yeah... I read that back and wondered what the hell I meant, sorry, that was hopelessly unclear of me.
I meant to say that Carbons wasn't even on there before, whereas it's now pretty much essential. > I’m still at a loss to find a problem which Carbon fully solves. It always > fails in the case were a carbon is lost and it sure doesn’t save any > bandwidth. > Two years ago I agreed with you entirely. I maintained this position until I switched to a server and set of clients that supported it, and then found it actually works pretty well. I know there's potential theoretical holes, but i suspect those are more plugged than not with 198 and MAM. Dave.
