For the record, I was not advocating <my-favorite-tool> over <your-favorite-tool>, or even that we change any existing tooling, which I don't think would od any good.
Changing tooling will not solve the problem, and probably won't help much at all. They all do broadly the same things. I was advocating a system to track issues through the pipeline, which as far as I can tell isn't something that we have any tooling around at all right now. Please let's not derail this conversation with what tools we all think are better. I certainly have my opinions (as I'm sure I've expressed before), but that's not what this thread was about. —Sam On 3/13/16, Florian Schmaus <[email protected]> wrote: > On 13.03.2016 18:08, Sam Whited wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Florian Schmaus <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> It has been 6 months since the GitHub Pull Requests #97, #84, #82, and >>> #41 have been issued on XSF's 'xeps' repo. >>> … >>> There are so many great people who work for free in their spare time on >>> XMPP and believe in the idea of XMPP. It can only work if we work >>> together. >> >> Does that mean you volunteer as official issue tracker? :) >> >> On a serious note, this is something tooling can help with. > > Theoretically we have already tooling in place. I believe the XSF's > infrastructure and they deployed "processes" have serious issues which > prevent people from participating, causing such issues. > > If it where me, I would say the XSF should go with gitlab, discourse and > eventually an open source ticket system and jenkins. Gitlab and > discourse can be easily self hosted or are free for non-profit > organizations. But I'm already hearing people say that no one will > maintain it. I would volunteer, and I guess other would too, but only if > this means that it would be used and our effort would not be a waste of > time. > > I also predict voices which will say that the tools won't solve the > issue. Let me tell you how it was at Ignite Realtime: Back in 2012 I > suggested to move from SVN to git, saying it will likely cause an > increase in contributions. Everybody of the elders was against it (ask > Guus). In 2014 I've switched the Ignite Realtime source repos to git, > and we now have more contributors: The tools, and especially how you use > them makes a difference. > > An example in the case of the XSF: I say we should get rid of mailman > and switch to discourse. I'm sick of searching forever for the valuable > information which is hold in the mailing lists archives. Discourse does > provide the same features of mailman, i.e. one can use it exactly like a > mailing list, but also provides a modern web interface which is very > usable on mobile devices. Discourse also provides a good search > interface and a sane view, i.e. does not combine the threads by > year/month per default. Plus there a dozen other nice things. > > - Florian > > -- Sam Whited pub 4096R/54083AE104EA7AD3 https://blog.samwhited.com _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: [email protected] _______________________________________________
