Just my two cents.

The muted state seems a lot like going offline to me. Preferring muted
over offline is just admitting that our catch-up mechanisms don't
work. And if that's true we should really be improving those instead.

Furthermore I'm afraid that muted will put a lot of stress on the
server. And the actual benefits in regards to battery consumption are
unclear. I'm not sure we have reached the full potential of
<inactive/> yet. (Thinking about delaying 'unimportant' IQs for
example)

cheers
Daniel

2016-10-24 15:45 GMT+02:00 Holger Weiß <[email protected]>:
> * Matthew Wild <[email protected]> [2016-10-24 13:51]:
>> and (assuming the example of a mobile phone) the user may manually
>> check the screen for notifications even if other forms of alerting the
>> user are muted.
>
> Hmm.  The client could send <muted/> only after emitting the first
> notification? :-)  (Nah.)
>
>> Second thought: at this point you'd be connected, but implying to the
>> server that you basically don't want to receive any stanzas. Why
>> remain connected?
>
> You might want to keep the session alive, e.g. to not actually miss
> messages, and to not fall out of MUC rooms.  Assuming ubiquitous MAM
> support, this use case is probably becoming less relevant though.
>
> So, good points, thanks for the feedback.
>
> Holger
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