On 03.10.2017 13:43, Matthew Wild wrote: >> On 29 Aug 2017, at 13:27, Kim Alvefur <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:03:37PM +0200, Daniel Gultsch wrote: >>>> Now that the PR regarding publish-options has been merged into >>>> XEP-0060 I want to bump this thread and ask if anyone objects to that >>>> proposal (making persistent-items, node-config and publish-options >>>> mandatory). Otherwise I would go ahead and create a PR for that and >>>> let council vote on this next Wednesday. >>> >>> I'm sceptical. I would rather see an even smaller mandated feature set. >>> Preferably exactly as much as required for extended presence (user tune >>> etc) and *nothing* else. These features you want to make mandatory ought >>> to be in XEP-0222 or XEP-0223 instead. Or perhaps a new XEP, the >>> full-blown-pubsub-on-your-jid XEP you always dreamed about. > > I agree with that. I don't really care where the note is. Clearly PEP > has proven a success, and it seems fine that people want to grow and > extend that with more features so we can grow and extend XMPP. > > But mandating these features in XEP-0163 is not a sensible solution. > There are many use cases that are served quite comfortably by the > original scope of PEP. The additional features we are talking about > are not necessarily possible in certain environments, and there's no > reason to make it "all or nothing". That's why we have feature > discovery! > > But again, I'm not opposed to a newly-defined PEP profile that > requires these features. Define a new feature, put it in the > compliance suite XEPs, etc. I'm fine with that. I think it makes > sense, because many modern protocols are depending on them.
I also think that newly-defined PEP profile(s), which are discoverable, are the way to go. - Florian
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