# 2017-10-18 Council minutes

Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2017-10-18/#14:56:10

## Roll Call

- Tobias (chairing)
- Dave Cridland (on 4G)
- Sam Whited
- Daniel Gultsch
- Emmanuel Gil Peyrot

## Minute Taker

Ge0rG this time

## Vote on "XEP-0071: make security considations much clearer"

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/528

- Link Mauve +1 (noting that more improvements are to come)
- SamWhited +1
- Tobias +1
- dwd +1
- daniel +1

## Vote on accepting ProtoXEP: Body Markup Hints

https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/bmh.html

- daniel +1
- Tobias will vote on list
- dwd anticipates more discussion, will vote on list
- SamWhited undecided, will vote on list
- Link Mauve -1

## Vote on accepting ProtoXEP: Atomically Compare-And-Publish PubSub

https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/cap.html

- SamWhited +1
- Tobias, dwd, Link Mauve, daniel will vote on list

## Vote on accepting ProtoXEP: Jinge Encrypted Transports - OMEMO

https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/jet-omemo.html

- dwd +1
- Tobias, Link Mauve, daniel, SamWhited on list

## Date of next

+1W

## AOB: Obsoleting XHTML-IM

daniel hadn't the time to read the ML thread yet.
Tobias proposes to wait another week for more discussion.
General agreement to bring up the vote next week.

## AOB: Voting on List without Verification

dwd proposes to re-confirm all ML votes in council MUC.
Sam, Tobias, Link Mauve argue that monitoring the ML should be sufficient.
dwd agrees.
[Some discussion about GPG DMARC, DKIM, SPF]

## AOB: XEP-0280: Rewrite of the 'Messages Eligible for Carbons Delivery' 
section

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/434

- Kev -1 on enforcing stricter rules right now, as the Big Picture isn't clear 
yet
- More whiteboarding is needed
- Ge0rG is encouraged to write more short posts about how broken everything is

EOM

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