Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:42:59 +0000
Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think RTTs should block UI either, but startup RTTs mean we
> cannot send or receive messages for several RTTs, and that's a very
> real problem over slower networks.

What problem? If you're on slow network, expect everything to be
slow, because, well, the network is slow.

> From a more cynical standpoint, it also addresses a commonly held
> belief about XMPP (startup is really slow and it's really chatty!)
> without causing harm.

I don't see this as a "commonly held belief". If you know how Web works,
you would never assume XMPP is slow. I don't remember anyone
complaining in my bugtracker about slow RTT.

To put it simply: I agree there can be use cases when you absolutely
need to work in a slow network (sending stanzas to the Moon and back,
as an example), and maybe there are indeed some problems with RTTs. But
I see this as a very narrow use case. So I would agree that the XEP will
be used by *some* software, and I'm fine with that. What bothers me is
that this may become a trend, seeing the XEP as a successor to the
"standard" approach, and even be put into "compliance suite".
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