1) Roll Call - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:01:10
Kev sent apologies. Daniel, Dave, Georg and Sam present. Kev shall vote on-list for everything. 2) Embarrassed shuffling as everyone realises it's St Valentine's Day and nobody thought to buy the Chair some nice flowers Georg provided a rose emoji, which was very thoughtful. 3) Deprecate XEP-0071 XHTML-IM - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:03:14 https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0071.html Dave noted this was the very specific case of embedding an XHTML subset into IM messages, and was not deprecating or otherwise expressing any opinion on other cases of embedding XHTML into XMPP traffic. All present +1 4) Deprecate XEP-0013 Flexible Offline Message Retrieval - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:05:12 https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0013.html There was a significant debate about this, and the wider question of how and when to deprecate XEPs. Georg and Dave both noted that this XEP appears to be an actively used mechanism for purging or suppressing offline messages, and Daniel noted that he also used it. Sam noted that much of the XEP was not used, however, and a more useful method should be created. There was a general discussion over whether, in the absence of such a replacement method, Council should deprecate the XEP. Sam argued that it would sent a clear signal that such a protocol were needed, but Dave and Georg both argued that in this instance, our best recommendation was indeed to implement that portion of XEP-0013. Daniel noted this, too, has problems. [ I have tried to write this neutrally but probably failed - but as an addendum, if someone wants to write a replacement that'd be most welcome - I think everyone present agreed that the XEP was old and crusty and a MAM-aware replacement needs to be done ] Daniel: ±0 Sam: +1 Georg and Dave: -1 5) Deprecate XEP-0137 Publishing Stream Initiation Requests - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:12:15 https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0137.html Dave noted that there was no modern replacement here, either, but being based on SI it was clearly deprecated in principle. Florian Schmaus, from the floor, noted XEP-0358 does actually replace this functionality. All present +1 6) Voting Reminders - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:15:40 Georg voted +1 to advance XEP-0234 to Draft. 7) AOB - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:16:56 Georg noted he'd like to see more discussion on HTTP upload and custom HTTP headers. Daniel suggested 5 hours was possibly sufficient. Dave said he was sticking to his -1 since all this needs a mention in the Security Considerations. 8) Next Meeting - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:28:32 Same XMPP Time, Same XMPP Channel. 9) Ite, Meeting Est - http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2018-02-14/#16:29:15 _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: [email protected] _______________________________________________
