Sorry about that one - my DSL at home dropped, leaving me serverless, and it seems my emergency jabber.org account has 197 subscription requests since I last used it, which makes it a little hard to actually use...
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 14:58, Tedd Sterr <[email protected]> wrote: > http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2019-07-10?p=h#2019-07-10-853eb083fe2465d9 > > An expectant silence falls as everyone waits for the nod from the > venerable Chair. > Georg gets impatient and appropriates the revered chair, assuming his > alter-ego, Fake-Dave. > > *1) Roll Call* > Present: Georg, Link, Jonas, Dave > Apologies: Kev > > *2) Agenda Bashing* > Fake-Dave asks whether there is anything further to add to the agenda - it > appears not. > > *3a) PR #797 - XEP-0128: Remove 'unlikely' statement* - > https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/797 > Jonas: +1 > Georg: +1 (looks straight-forward; pretty sure it's not a breaking change) > Link: +1 > Dave: [pending] > Kev: [pending] > > +1 > *3b) PR #796 - XEP-0368: clarify what happens when a `.` target is > published* - https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/796 > Jonas: +1 > Link: +1 (definitely!) > Georg: +1 (this is just a clarification of RFC 2782) > Dave: [pending] > Kev: [pending] > > +1 > *4) Outstanding Votes* > Fake-Dave notes the two voting items which expire today, with missing > input from Kev and Link. > Link has yet to review the document for his remaining vote. > > Real-Dave makes an appearance, grumbling about useless DSL service. > > *5) Next Meeting* > 2019-07-17 1500 UTC > > *6) AOB* > Jonas still doesn't know what to do about Jingle things - without the > insight that comes from implementing it, it's difficult to judge whether a > change to Jingle (and other large, complex sub-protocols) is sensible; so > it's difficult to feel confident voting on such things. Others have > mentioned that "Jingle veterans" would be qualified to give reviews, and > this seems like a sane way forward, though it would be better if Council > actually had the technical understanding for everything, but that's > unrealistic with so many XEPs. > Georg thinks that Council should formally request independent reviews from > a small number of people not already involved in the PR. > Dave's view is that while Council has the final say, how that decision is > reached is up to Council members, and that may involve deferring to > external expertise or something else; but is in favour of getting > independent reviews. Georg would like to prevent the situation where all > Council members privately ask for feedback from the same source and each > base their (supposedly independent) decisions on that. > Jonas would like to ask on the mailing list for specific +1/-1 feedback on > the PRs from Jingle veterans - Georg is fine with this, but wonders how to > define who qualifies as a veteran - Jonas suggests author/implementer > during CFE. Dave suggests discussing who to ask for reviews when things > come up for voting; Georg recommends deferring on such a vote, and defining > a list of people to consult - Dave has usually found that one decent review > is enough to spark a discussion which illuminates the issues. > > Georg wonders if this should be done for PR #793 - Jonas thinks so. Georg > asks Peter if he feels confident in estimating the implications of PR #793 > and able to review it in two weeks time - Peter commits to it. Georg > doesn't see a clear indication from Fippo's email - should ask for > clarification. Georg also asks Link to review the PR and make a public > statement on the mailing list thread - Link agrees to do so. > Peter adds Lance as another Jingle veteran who could possibly review PRs. > > *7) Close* > Fake-Dave thanks everyone; everyone thanks Fake-Dave. Real-Dave thanks > Fake-Dave for stepping up. > > _______________________________________________ > Standards mailing list > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > _______________________________________________ >
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