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On 1/6/23 6:49 AM, Florian Schmaus wrote:
I'd like the XSF to provide infrastructure to publish (and discuss) XEPs
without Councils approval. Everyone can already publish stuff (cause
"internet"). So the XSF not allowing this just scatters the documents
around the web and does more harm.
Originally, the JEP Editor (c'est moi) accepted all reasonable proposals
that passed a truly minimum bar for quality. At some point (I don't
remember which year) the Council decided that it needed to vote on
whether a spec could even become a JEP/XEP in the first place, which
merely made the ProtoXEP stage a thing. Personally I don't think that
was necessary, and I never was clear on what problem the Council was
trying to solve by inserting itself that early.
I am not sure which protections you are referring to, given that there
are implementations out there which not comply with "our"
specifications. And this can simply not be prevented. Instead, we should
make it more clear that incubating ProtoXEPs are 1. subject to change in
any way without any backwards guarantees, and 2. implementations of such
may not follow the spec (due to 1. and the fact that developers may
decide to try something a little bit different).
I still want council to have a final word about an incubating ProtoXEP
being adopted as official and council-approved XEP.
I am not sure even that is necessary. Take a look at, say, the first 50
JEPs we worked on as a community. Progress happened very quickly, often
with new versions every few days. As an example, version 0.1 of XEP-0045
was published on 2002-09-09 and version 0.23 was published on
2002-11-06, which was the version that the Council advanced to Draft on
2002-11-21. It took us two months to develop and advance a large,
foundational spec! Yet at some point we got bogged down in process and
now things take way too long.
Yes, the Council should be involved with advancing specs to Draft, but
IMHO it would be more productive for publication to be much more free
and open to that point.
Peter
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