Hi !

I'm ok to move the retractation thing in a specific XEP, indeed it would take a bit more effort to have it as a server feature and I didn't wanted to block the whole process.

Once something like a pubsub#expire node configuration exist we could upgrade again the Stories XEP to rely on it.

For now the current Stories XEP will define a new kind of node where "Stories like" content will be there, allowing the clients to configure their UX/UI properly.

Regards,

edhelas

Le 17/12/2024 à 18:21, Goffi a écrit :
Le mardi 17 décembre 2024, 15:56:42 heure normale d’Europe centrale Daniel
Gultsch a écrit :
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.

Title: Pubsub Stories
Abstract:
This specification defines a way of publishing Stories over XMPP.

URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/stories.html

The Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this
proposal as an official XEP.
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Hi Edhelas,

Thank you for your contribution.

I've voted +0 on this one, so I'm not blocking it but I'm not pushing either.
I want to explain why here.

I think this feature is popular and thus likely useful and desirable. However,
I have some issues with the design of this specification:

- It's not generic; it's only for blogging. Retracting items after a delay
should be a generic feature.
- The delay is vague and should be specified. Ideally, it should be possible to
customize the delay, with a reasonable value set by default.
- The retraction is done by the client, which is my major concern: if the
client doesn't connect (or connects much later), items won't be retracted. The
retraction should be handled by the Pubsub service.

While I appreciate the stories profile, I believe the retraction design isn't
quite right.

I suggest that we completely remove this retraction feature from this
specification and move it to a new one. This new spec should use a well-known
node configuration to remove items after a customizable amount of time (or at a
specific date and time). We can add a fallback asking the publishing client to
retract items if the service doesn't support this config option. This way, we
have a clean and generic method for item retraction.

What are your thoughts?

Best,
Goffi

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