On 19 December 2024 15:41:37 GMT+02:00, Stephen Paul Weber 
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on
>> XEP-0424.
>> 
>> Title: Message Retraction
>> Abstract:
>> This specification defines a method for indicating that a message
>> should be retracted.
>> 
>> URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0424.html
>> 
>> This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on
>> 2025-01-06.
>> 
>> Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send
>> your feedback to the [email protected] discussion list:
>> 
>> 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol
>> stack or to clarify an existing protocol?
>
>No, it is a subset of the functionality of 
>https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0308.html

I disagree.

1. There is no mention in XEP-0308 of retracting messages or the potential 
implications of doing so. Simply removing the text is a hack and not mentioned 
in XEP-0308 AFAIK.
2. The semantics are different. Retractions are not corrections. For example, 
in Converse, we show previous versions of a corrected message, which we don't 
for retracted messages. Servers may choose (and some do) to deal differently 
with retracted messages versus corrected ones.
3. XEP-0308 only specifies correcting the last element, this one allows you to 
retract older ones as well.
4. This XEP mentions tombstones, which XEP-0308 doesn't and there is no need 
for them in XEP-0308, so logically, just based on that last point, this XEP 
isn't a subset.

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