Hi, Le mercredi 5 mars 2025, 06:28:32 heure normale d’Europe centrale Nicolas Cedilnik a écrit :
> > there was work before, but not visible in the standard@ process > AFAIK there is Kev's > <https://github.com/swift/protoxeps/blob/master/related-entities.md> and > a pad that I cannot find anymore, but which attempted to cover ACL too > IIRC. It had not been active for a while, hence my attempt to revive > "spaces". You did good, things need to move on this feature. > > I have a concern about using a trademark known for a conflict about its name in > > example (Apple Records), but IANAL, maybe it's fine. We have also said in the > > council meeting that making up TLDs is not a good idea either (even if it's > > fun, they can be registered anytime), there is the `.example` for that. > Oh, I can change that. I just happen to be extremely > Shakespeare-illiterate and didn't want it to show too much. Yeah that's not a problem, no need to use Shakespearian characters all the time, many XEPs don't. > > My other concern is technical, I have the feeling that we are re-inventing > > pubsub on top on disco here, with actually using pubsub for subscriptions, and > > Ad-Hoc for creation/deletion (which are built-in pubsub features). > > I am probably biased because of the clients I am using, but it seems to > me that generic adhoc command support is more widespread than generic > pubsub support. I suspect this is because XEP-0060 is huge and scary, > which is something I specifically did not want this XEP to be. Most clients do because it's necessary to use things such as OMEMO, modern bookmarks or VCard, etc. No need for a full XEP-0060 implementation. > Maybe we could add pubsub's mechanisms for creation/deletion too? Did > you have XEP-0248 (PubSub Collection Nodes) in mind too? I'm thinking about vanilla pubsub, the same mechanism as used now, just on pubsub nodes, that gives out of the box subscriptions and permissions management. Pubsub Colleciton has nearly no implementation, and has some issues. I've actually proposed an alternative with XEP-0496 "Pubsub Node Relationships" and following XEPs, but it's too young and there is not yet implementations. I think vanilla pubsub is enough for the moment, this can still be used later if the need arises. Note that this is just a suggestion. Your specification has been accepted anyway. > Anyway thanks a lot for the feedback! Thanks for your specification and work in general :) > Cheers, > > -- nicoco Best, Goffi
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