No one was forcing them to attack our country and destroy our cities and energy infrastructure. That's what they are doing right now, in the middle of the winter. They killed, raped, and kidnapped thousands of civilians. Recently discovered children torture rooms on liberated territories. It's pure terrorism.
So they have a really simple choice - do something with their crazy autocrat or come here as occupants and suffer in the mud and cold doing military crimes.
At the same time, we have no choice here in Ukraine. We must protect our lives and country. Sometimes it feels like we are solving their problem with their government. Sadly, it takes so many lives... The main difference is that in Ukraine, no one is hunting for conscripts with the police. And are there different legal ways to avoid conscription. We have a lot of military and civilian volunteers. Everyone is trying to do something to help and save the future.
Sorry for off-topic. ---The Dishy is easy to camouflage. And there is no easy way to detect directional Ku band transmission. We made different kinds of measurements. So it is up to WiFi. The solution is currently rolling out on Starlink routers.
On 12/20/22 01:34, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote:
Greetings from Hiroshima where, on August 6, 1945, at this time in the morning, I would've had a couple of minutes left to live where I am sitting and typing this now. Makes one think. Neither Russia nor Ukraine respect the right to conscientious objection. Seeing my colleagues at work who are from mixed Russian and Ukrainian families makes it hit home daily what war means to them and their loved ones. Having to worry about a top student of mine whose Russian parents' business is affected by the war, and who may not be able to pay his international student fees next year, and may have to return home to face conscription and the meat grinder. He could be one of those who we see gleeful YouTube videos of, having bombs dropped on them from drones, with no shelter, wriggling in pain as they take their last breath. Makes me forget the price tag of the missiles for the moment.That said, the Starlink WiFi router is of course only one RF source a detector might want to zero in on, and as it's been pointed out it's easily camouflaged or spoofed on the RF side of things. The satcom signal off the Dishy is another, and it's not as easily spoofed. However, Dishy will point itself where it can see most relay-capable satellites, which in Ukraine will be in a western or northwestern direction. Which means pointing the signal away from Russia and the detectors in most cases. Russians are by and large clever folks (never judge a people by its autocratic leaders) and are probably well aware of this. So we can book that military blog entry under fog of war misinformation.On 20/12/2022 5:07 am, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 7:54 AM Eric via Starlink <[email protected]> wrote: >> Get a bunch of US$3 ESP8266 devices, set them up in AP mode with spoofed Starlink MACs and BSSIDs, power them with solar cells + old vape-pen batteries and spread them all over the place. There's nothing like causing the other side to shoot $50k missiles at a $15 decoy.Well, the difference in amount of traffic generated by an idle AP vs one in use would be large, and the interference caused by simulating traffic on the other APs a pita, but narrow channels and a bunch of APs does thin the herd. Meshy mode, at least adhoc, has fewer identifying signatures in the packet header, making an "AP" less obvious. > > ------- Original Message -------> On Sunday, December 18th, 2022 at 20:49, David Lang via Starlink <[email protected]> wrote:> >> > and change the name of the starlink wifi so it doesn't stand out as much.> > > > David Lang > > > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: > > > > > From the beginning, the general rule is don't use Starlink WiFi. Or > > > hide the router somewhere to reduce RF emissions. > > >> > > We have developed a set of rules and recommendations about using a PoE> > > injector or bypassing the Starlink router. > > > Unfortunately, a lot of people ignore safety. > > > > > > But there are some countermeasures on the way. > > > > > > On 12/19/22 05:03, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, there is nothing special. > > > >> > > > You can capture WiFi beacons and get a BSSID with a good directional> > > > antenna. 10 - 15 km it's not a problem. > > > >> > > > They are filtering Starlink router BSSID to figure out that somewhere> > > > there is Starlink. > > > > Starlink WiFi router uses Tibro corp. (74:24: prefix). > > > > On 12/19/22 04:41, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > > > > > > > > > Starlink detector boasted about... 10km range. > > >> > > https://www.notebookcheck.net/Starlink-terminal-detection-radar-to-enter-testing-in-Ukraine-as-per-Russian-military-blogger.675439.0.html> > >> > > > > I would have figured on starlinks less further front, combined with> > > > > non los radios and ptp wifi being viable. Targeting every wifi> > > > > transmitter is a low percentage play, and adhoc modes for directional> > > > > wifi with synthetic mac's harder to distinguish ... > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Starlink mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Starlink mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink-- **************************************************************** Dr. Ulrich Speidel School of Computer Science Room 303S.594 (City Campus) The University of Auckland[email protected] http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/**************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
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