On Mon, 24 Apr 2023, Michael Richardson via Starlink wrote:

Dave Taht via Starlink <[email protected]> wrote:
   > Everyone wants a water deluge system and flame diverter, but I was
   > thinking perhaps liquid nitrogen, as a natural byproduct of LOX

Yeah, but how do you put one on the moon or mars?
Lower gravity helps, sure, ...

lower gravity helps so much that you don't need 33 engines, the 6 engines on the starship will make it from mars to earth, let alone from the moon.

   > Landing and then taking off from the moon or mars look rather
   > problematic at the moment!

Do the rockets do the swoop and flip on mars and the moon?

on mars, yes, it will do aero-braking and then flip and land. On the mood it will just use engines (and possibly lower powered engines mounted higher in the craft for the final touchdown and initial liftoff to avoid this sort of problem.

David Lang
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