On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 7:42 PM Luis A. Cornejo <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think they are overpriced for what they deliver, at least in my part of the > world (north of Houston.) I dropped them last month once the extra $10 made > it go to $120, they charge $90 in other places in the US. I guess the MBAs > are doing "market segmentation," in other words, just charging what the > market can bear, well given the state of the economy and the costs of goods, > they pushed me out of that market. > > I switched to Verizon LTE and it's been really great 50/5 ish for $50. A > pretty good price for the service, Starlink is not 140% better, in fact it's > worse on average, and did not get better for the year that I had it... well > actually it got progressively worse on average.
Have you tried "cake-autorate" for your LTE yet? > > Now if they ever offer a reasonable plan for a reasonable price, I'll be all > over it, I like redundancy. A 50/5 for about $50/mo would probably bring me > back, or even a smaller bandwidth for less money would probably bite and I > really want them to succeed. > > In the case of the WISPs, I can definitely believe the churn. WISPs that run > libreqos are more than likely very well run networks, I bet those who leave > quickly realize how good they have had it. Of course StarLink can probably > mirror (for all practical purposes) a well run WISP, if they would only > listen/hire you for a little while and fix their bufferbloat! > > Speaking of WISPs, I thought I was going to get NextLink service at my place, > but it turns out the system isn't quite here yet. I got excited since I've > read that they were deploying Tarana gear, and was looking forward to testing > that out, I've only seen very little with regards to the Tarana gear in a > real world environment. I live among the tall pines of east Texas and getting > line of sight requires obnoxiously large towers. Anybody else has any > information about the Tarana systems in the real world and not just a PtP > quick test? This was pretty interesting though as someone who appreciates > redundant/fault tolerant systems: > > https://www.taranawireless.com/ngfwa-technology-that-keeps-customers-connected/ I am very interested in NLOS wireless services such as what tarana promises. I am trying to get data from this facebook group over here, about it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/taranawireless/posts/1395880697842422/ > > -Luis > > On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 7:48 AM Dave Taht via Starlink > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Aside from using triggering words, like "shrapnel", rather than >> debris, this is a pretty good, and profoundly negative summary of the >> Starship launch. https://youtu.be/ErDuVomNd9M >> >> Nit: I get bugged by folk like this raising local environmental >> concerns, as if you make the half an hour long drive to the launch >> site, there are plenty of wetlands to spare. Obliterating 1000 >> diameter meters of it, turning it into a concrete strewn wasteland, >> (and not coated with hypergolic poisons) for a launch site, seems >> trivial compared to oh, paving over manhattan, or what it took to >> build out towns like brownsville in the first place, and reminds me of >> the enormous fight to save the snail darter.[1] >> >> This also, was a fair minded summary of the negatives of where things >> stand: https://thenext30trips.com/p/scrappy-special-edition and what >> seems to me to be a great suggestion in locating the launch site *just >> offshore*, in the comments. >> >> Anyway, over here was a summary of what actually happened, according >> to Musk. The pad damage was not what caused the shutdown of 3 engines, >> and requalifying the ATS is what will take the most time. Still >> projecting 4-5 flights this year. >> >> https://twitter.com/JackKuhr/status/1652466221390913536 >> >> I note that my principal interest, at least, in the short term, was in >> thinking about how the Starship development timeline affects the >> starlink rollout. The "v2" satellites already constructed are >> effectively already obsolete, and their technologies being shrunk down >> into the v2 minis and successors, and the network behaviors themselves >> continually optimized. Right now I think it will be 2+ years before >> the first meaningful launch of the larger starlink satellites on >> Starship, and at the same time the flight rate of the falcons keeps >> getting better and better. I would kind of expect the "v3 mini" to >> have roughly the same throughput as the v2s at an ongoing half the >> size. >> >> Starlink is now well over a billion dollar a year revenue business, >> which is insanely better than what iridium achieved before entering >> bankruptcy (Iridium was under 70k users as best as I recall around >> then). Whatever spacex and starlink are spending on R&D makes me >> shudder. I am finding it odd that they have stopped publishing user >> growth numbers - small personal data point: in working with libreqos >> users, I am hearing about a 40% rate of folk that switched from WISP >> to starlink and back - so customer retention might be a problem as >> soon as someone finds a better service elsewhere. Another number I am >> trying to track is the useful life of the v1s - projected to last 5 >> years. There are 70+% of the first launch still operational. ( >> https://twitter.com/VirtuallyNathan is an ongoing sump of info) >> >> [1] https://twitter.com/JackKuhr/status/1652466221390913536 >> >> -- >> AMA March 31: https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht >> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink -- Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list [email protected] https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
