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   1. Re: How to add or update information on stellarium stars
      catalog (Pavel Spacek)
   2. Re: Fwd: A new sky for Stellarium? (Georg Zotti)
   3. Re: Fwd: A new sky for Stellarium? (mim198m...@aol.com)


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Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 19:47:20 +0200
From: Pavel Spacek <pavel.spacek>@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] How to add or update information on
        stellarium stars catalog
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Dear Ammar,

what I did long time ago using version 0.10.2 was: I downloaded the desired
text star catalogs from ftp server of CDS in Strasbourg (I think it was
cdsweb.u-strasbg.fr, (http://cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/ftp-index?)). Then
I loaded the text files into MySQL databsse. In the end it was 1GB database
(commands necessary for creation described in changes.txt). If you have
MySQL 5.1-32 installed, all the commands from changes.txt and datap.txt are
repeatable but it takes a lot of time. After I loaded the text files into
MySQL database I ran various scripts and queries and created text outputs
with extension .fab (scripts described in datap.txt). Then I replaced the
contents of the file name.fab in Stellarium user directory with the file
created by a particular query, e.g. ads.fab -> names.fab. Then I restarted
Stellarium and had my local designations I wanted. That was the only way to
create a join between Hip catalog and external data, there was no chance of
join with TYC catalog. There was not and probably is not now a way to
produce a direct join with binary .cat files unless you start heavy C
programming and changing structure of catalog files, not my domain.
To my surprise I found in my archives the generated .fab files, it is 12MB
compressed, if you want I can email that to your address and you can play
with it if you like. I cannot send it here, people would kill me for that.

Cheers,

Pavel

On 23 May 2013 21:16, Shadiq Ammar <ammar.shadiq>@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Pavel,
>
> Thank you for your reply, please correct me if I'm wrong. From my quick
> glance on your script its looks like your are compiling data from various
> repository and using it to create a new stellarium star catalog with added
> information or for other means. But it looks like the output/input to mysql
> are in plain text file. How do you incorporate those output to stellarium,
> you know, since stellarium using *hex* format.
>
> Again plese correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Pavel Spacek 
<pavel.spacek>@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Ammar,
>>
>> 3 or 4 years ago I played with personal customization of Stellarium as
>> well. Originally I just wanted to have Aitken and Struve numbers 
available
>> and variable stars name search. I have no time for it now. You can 
search
>> for my email in the sourceforge archive. I downloaded plethora of text
>> catalogues from CDS, loaded them to MySQL and made query scripts over 
the
>> tables, that provided interested data. I still found the description 
of the
>> work and the scripts in my archive, attaching 3 text files, check them 
if
>> they are of any use to you. (Knowledge of MySQL is necessary). You find
>> that names.fab approach has its limitations (I believe the issue I 
raised
>> when reporting was still on sourceforge was never fixed).
>>
>> I think Virgo provides similar functionality but, alas, you have to be
>> online. I made my customization for myself, always being offline.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pavel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 May 2013 16:47, Georg Zotti <georg.zotti>@univie.ac.at> 
wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Ammar,
>>>
>>> it's far simpler. Star names are part of a sky culture, therefore 
they
>>> are
>>> stored there, in the star_names.fab file. This is a text file 
which lists
>>> Hipparchos numbers and the given name.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Georg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Do, 23.05.2013, 14:01, Shadiq Ammar wrote:
>>> > My current objective are adding star names to unnamed stars on
>>> stellarium.
>>> > After exploring stellarium stars *.cat* files and trying to 
convert it
>>> > using /util/ConvertCatToNative i notice that file format are 
still in
>>> hex.
>>> > I never handles hex files before.... I'm trying to 
understands it, but
>>> > probably wrong. From what I read here:
>>> >
>>> 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/stellarium/files/Stellarium-user-guide/0.9.1-1/stellarium_user_guide-0.9.1-1.pdf
>>> > (Appendix
>>> > E: Starts Catalog)
>>> >
>>> > table E-10 on above document.
>>> > column name: hip, offset: 0, siz:3, description: hipparcos 
catalogue
>>> > number
>>> >
>>> > Implies that the first 3 byte on stars_0_0v0_1.cat are 
hipparcos
>>> catalog
>>> > number, but I don't know which one (signed/unsigned int 
8/16/32/64) my
>>> > guess is the unsigned 16 bit. (btw, I'm using Bless Hex 
Editor to read
>>> the
>>> > file).
>>> >
>>> > Could anyone give me pointer of how to read and edit the star 
catalog?
>>> > such
>>> > as where the record of a star ended and which table (at the 
document
>>> > above), what files do I have to pay attention to, how to add 
or edit a
>>> > star
>>> > name etc?
>>> >
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Ammar Shadiq
>>> >
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Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 15:02:46 +0200
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Hmm, I had never seen the unconscious boy next to bright Orion...

Maybe ask for some children artwork? (drawing contest. They should use
paper overlaid on Stellarium printouts. Simple outline figures, linked to
3 known stars, scan, invert colors, configure, done.)

I might be too traditionalist, but
 -- the spectacles may include the brighter eps Cas, not psi Cas?
 -- If you see the dog's head, why not call all of Leo a dog?
 -- The hamburger looks awkward. Close the loop without Dubhe?

G.

On Fr, 24.05.2013, 12:20, Alexander Wolf wrote:
> Howdy all!
>
> 2013/5/22 Matthew Gates <matthewg42>@gmail.com>
>
>> I got this mail (forwarded).  What do you think about inclusion?  I
>>
>
>
> Why not? We can added description with explanation for this culture and
> include it as exception.
>
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> WBW, Alex
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Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 11:53:26 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Re: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Fwd: A new sky for Stellarium?
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Hmm, I  had never seen the unconscious boy next to bright Orion...

Maybe ask  for some children artwork? (drawing contest. They should use
paper overlaid  on Stellarium printouts. Simple outline figures, linked to
3 known stars,  scan, invert colors, configure, done.)

I might be too traditionalist,  but
-- the spectacles may include the brighter eps Cas, not psi Cas?
--  If you see the dog's head, why not call all of Leo a dog?
-- The hamburger  looks awkward. Close the loop without Dubhe?

G.

On Fr,  24.05.2013, 12:20, Alexander Wolf wrote:
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>
>  2013/5/22 Matthew Gates <matthewg42>@gmail.com>
>
>> I got  this mail (forwarded).  What do you think about inclusion?   I
>>
>
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> Why not? We can added description with  explanation for this culture and
> include it as  exception.
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