-----Original Message-----
From: sparta13 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: October 22, 2001 9:57 AM

Dear Readers,

I would like my response to Ms. Molchany to receive the widest
circulation possible.

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Dear Ms. Molchany,

I found your response to my letter published in The Washington Times, in
which you call it "an outrageous lie," very offensive.  You may not
agree with the provisions of the 1996 Anti-Terrorism Act; your clients
may even have been treated unjustly.  However,not only are there
provisions in the act for review of the secret evidence by an INS judge,
provisions which are designed to protect persons such as your clients
from the kind of injustice you claim, but in my judgment in the security
of nearly 300 million Americans is the primary concern of the Congress
of the United States and no one has a God-given right to enter this
country.

I contend that if we are to err, we should err on the side of protecting
this country from aliens whom we have reason to believe are connected to
terrorist organizations.  While that may occasionally impact on an alien
who is, in fact, not connected to terrorist groups, the safety of the
American people should be our first consideration.

You mentioned that Muslims have been detained and confined for as long
as four years, often in isolation,  If that is true, it is unfortunate
and should be addressed, but it doesn't mean that we should jeopardize
the safety of this country to accommodate them.  My concern is about the
security of this country, not about their rights.  The results of
September 11 should make that perfectly clear.

And as far as Mr. Woolsey and Mr. Lantos are concerned, they are
entitled to their opinions.  This certainly is not the first time I have
disagreed with those gentlemen, especially Mr. Lantos.  I believe I
still have the right to do so.

You state that the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act was
created as a response to the Oklahoma City bombing which had nothing
whatsoever to do with Arabs or Muslims.  How can you be so sure?  (and
in passing, I believe it was journalist Ann Coulter who said in one of
her commentaries, (to paraphrase) "All Muslims are not terrorists, but
all the terrorists have been Muslims."  Facts to consider regarding the
OC bombing.

Bill O'Reilly of FoxNews had someone on his program several weeks ago, a
woman who stated that Islamic terrorists were involved in the Oklahoma
City bombing.  Right after the bombing, we kept hearing about John Doe
2, who looked "Middle-Eastern" and had an unfamiliar accent (an Hispanic
accent would have been recognizable).  Then, all of a sudden, the guy
disappears - as though he never existed - that is until the release of
the withheld FBI documents.  John Doe #2 has come back upon the scene.
But where is he? What has happened to him?  Whatever McVeigh knew, he
took to the grave.  One of the cable networks interviewed one of the
grandmothers who had lost two precious grandchildren.  She stated that
McVeigh should not be executed because Americans have not been told the
whole truth.  That was quite a statement to make from someone whose loss
is so great.  I think she is right regarding her concerns that we
haven't heard the whole truth regarding the Oklahoma City bombing.

We are hearing more and more about Abu Say, the terrorist in the
Philippines who is connected to Osama bin laden. Abu Say's aim is to
claim Mindanao as an Independent Muslim Island.  My neighbor's wife, who
is from the Philippines, said her father was assassinated by Muslim
terrorists and Catholic villages continue to be destroyed, their
Christian occupants slain.

Frankly, in my opinion, and many share it with me, there has been a
cover-up of the Oklahoma City bombing and it's possible Islamic
terrorist connections.

Right after the bombing of the Oklahoma City Murrah Building,
Congressman Saxton, Republican from New York stood on the floor of the
House (I heard him myself!) and announced that Terry Nichols had taken
four (I've heard as many as 20) trips to the Philippines, to the
Southern part of the Philippines where it is a hotbed of Islamic (Abu
Sayyaf) terrorists. Furthermore, I've been told that Nichols has a
Muslim wife.

I recently heard another caller into C-SPAN say that beside Terry
Nichols taking trips to the Philippines to the camp of Abu Sayyaf, so
did Timothy McVeigh, which I had not known until then.

Since travel to the Philippines is costly, who paid for those many
trips? McVeigh and Nichols didn't have enough money (so to speak) to buy
a pot to
(ahem!) relieve themselves!

Interestingly, the May 17, 1995 issue of STRATEGIC INVESTMENT, makes
several points regarding the bombing:

1.  That it does not rule out the involvement of a foreign government.

2.  The blast was very powerful, four times larger than the largest bomb
detonated against a civilian target by the IRA.  Bombs in the
Middle-East have been this large, however.  Comparatively speaking, the
Oklahoma City blast was equivalent to the bomb that destroyed the Beirut
Embassy.

3.  Our sources close to law enforcement indicate that the bombing was a
sophisticated operation that would have cost at least $100,000
(considering that McVeigh was leading a hand-to-mouth existence in a
trailer park, lacked the capacity to organize or fund the bombing
operation himself).

And finally, I suggest that you go to the following link to read an
interview from World Net Daily, Oct 21, with David Schippers (cover-up)
regarding the Oklahoma City bombing.

http://wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008


Sunday, October 21, 2001
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SUNDAY Q & A
Middle East-OKC connection
David Schippers tells Metcalf feds 'ignored' warnings of WTC attacks

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Frankly, Ms. Molchany, to even suggest that aliens take priority over
the security of this nation at a time when this nation suffers at the
hands of aliens whom we let into our nation in good faith is ludicrous
and un-American.

Sincerely,

Stella L. Jatras

(BTW:  I stand by my letter)

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 2:49 PM
Subject: SB111R1:My letter published in The Washington Times "Proposed
bill would


>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:37:55 -0700
> From: Betty Molchany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], SIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, YUGO
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      BALKAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Siem-News <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      SNN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: My letter published in The Washington Times "Proposed
bill
>     would help terrorists
>
> MessageI can see why this letter was published by the Washington 
> Times. It is an outrageous lie.  I have been an activist on behalf of 
> that bill. I know well its origins and the reasons for it.  I know 
> three of the Members who introduced it, and others who supported it.
>
> The 1996 Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act was created as 
> a response to the Oklahoma bombing which had nothing whatsoever to do 
> with Arabs or Muslims.  The passages in the Act approving the use of 
> secret evidence were then used as Star Chamber proceedings against 
> Muslims who were held in custody for as long as four years, often in 
> isolation, without knowing the charges, the evidence, the witnesses, 
> and most of the obvious resulting orders against them.  James Woolsey,

> former Director of the CIA (1993-1995) said the denial of access to 
> this evidence by attorneys is a stain on the honor of the United 
> States.  Even with his highest security clearance in the States, the 
> INS denied him the evidence when he took on, pro bono, representation 
> of the group known to be "The Iraqi Six."
>
> You should also know that all these Muslims were eventually released 
> after much suffering by them and their families.  It was all a lie, a 
> manufacturing often of evidence, errors in translation.  INS did not 
> even consult with the CIA supervisor in Iraq, Warren Marek, regarding 
> these men.  This man testified on October 8, 1999, before the Senate 
> Judiciary Committee and said that he knew three of the men and that he

> believed that they men who could be trusted. I have met most of the 
> Muslims who were incarcerated as well as two were not.  I trust them 
> implicitly with my life.
>
> Finally, originally, Jews and Jewish organizations originally opposed 
> the bill.  But, eventually, they too joined in support once it was 
> weakened substantially.  Note that Tom Lantos, who is an arch-Zionist 
> in the Congress, was one of the House co-sponsors.
>
> Betty Molchany, J.D.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Miroslav Antic
>   To: SIN ; NATO ; YUGO ; BALKAN ; Siem-News ; SNN
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 11:52 AM
>   Subject: My letter published in The Washington Times "Proposed bill
would help terrorists
>
>
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>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: sparta13 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: October 20, 2001 9:30 PM
>
>   My letter published in The Washington Times "Proposed bill would 
> help
terrorists enter the U.S." (Stella)
>
>
>   THE WASHINGTON TIMES
>
>   20 October 2001/Page A11
>
>   LETTER
>
>   Proposed bill would help terrorists enter the U.S.
>
>   Congress is about to repeat another blunder such as the one noted in
your Oct. 13 wire story, " 'Colossal' failure lets terrorists in
country." International groups, primarily those connected to Hamas,
Hezbollah and other Islamic organizations with terrorist connections,
are pushing for the passage of the Repeal of Secret Evidence Act of 2001
(H.R. 1266).
>
>   The proposed bill would effectively terminate the government's 
> ability
to use classified information against terrorists at the border seeking
entry into the United States.  While secret evidence cannot (and should
not) be used in proceedings regarding U.S. citizens, the current law,
which H.R. 1266 would rescind, specifically affects aliens.
>
>   Passage of H.R. 1266 would force disclosure of secret intelligence
data - which might compromise intelligence sources -- to the aliens in
the course of immigration proceedings.  The net effect would be to
facilitate entry into this country of terrorists, such as those
connected to Osama bin Laden.
>
>   At present, 100 members of Congress support H.R. 1266.  Many do so
because they believe that anyone seeking entry into this country should
enjoy the same constitutional protections as a U.S. citizen.
Considering the security risks our nation faces in the wake of Sept. 11,
it behooves these lawmakers to rethink their position and to help keep
future terrorists from entering the United States.
>
>   After all, the federal government's first priority is the security 
> of
our nation -- not protecting the "rights" of aliens who may harbor a
grudge against us.
>
>   STELLA L. JATRAS
>   Sterling, VA
>
>
>

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