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In a message dated 16/06/01 15:52:50 Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Dalit
 to me sounds a great deal like the argument put forth by the early Zionist
 movement.  >>

Louis,

I think you are still missing the point about "Dalitism".  The Dalits are 
representing the lower castes in Hindu society, they are not an "ethnic", 
"religious" or "racial" group but a layer of Indian society that is the most 
oppressed.  Consider the following description by a close personal friend of 
mine Shivrang Setlur speaking about the politics of class and caste in India:

"Being from the South [of India], where anti-Brahmanism is an established 
political reality, I think there's a little more perspective on the whole 
phenomena that leftists and other activists in the North [of India] miss 
picking up. Like the fact that Hinduism ain't an organized religion, and 
there is no caste "System", there is a similar world view and social 
structure that results in hierarchies in local society. Many groups that are 
considered high in the south are considered low in the north and vice versa. 
It varies. the only common denominator is that there is a hierarchy and 
exploitation."

The Dalits support the rigths of the lower classes and all those marginilized 
by the Westernized neoliberal portions of the Indian elite.  Louis if I were 
you I would reserve judgement on Indian politics a little more before jumping 
down peoples throats.  Its easy to brand someone a certain thing without even 
trying to understand their views.  Yes, I too am uncomfortable by the attacks 
on the Hindu religion made by the Dalits, but then again there is no 
essential "Hinduism" and the whole notion of "Hindu" as perceived in the West 
is largely a construct of misguided Western attempts to explain religion on 
the Indian sub-continent in Judeo-Christian terms.  Furthermore, the Dalit 
attacks on this tradition come from within the tradition, thereby producing a 
healthy debate over the nature and future of Hinduism and its relationship to 
Indian statehood.  Soooo...wait, learn, and be patient before casting 
judgement on the Dalits or any other force in modern day India because the 
categories that make so much since to both me and you in our own respective 
contexts do not necessarily mean or translate into the same things all the 
time in the Third World.  Unfortunately (or should I say fortunately?), most 
Western intellectuals still haven't learned how little the labels they have 
learned in the academies of Europe and America actually apply outside of 
these bubbles.  Essentially all I'm saying Louis is for you to rethink your 
position on this issue and try to break out of the current framework you are 
working within.  If it doesn't work out fine.  But there is no reason not to 
try  : )

cheers!

Kosta


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