The following is Vernon Cole' response to James Henstrige's response to Vernon... [...] > > The big difference > between Storm and the other projects you've mentioned is that Storm > does not have any full time developers: instead it is infrastructure > used by a number of Canonical projects (Landscape, Launchpad and > UbuntuOne). This means that most of the contributions you see from us > are driven by the needs of those projects (although we do try to > review and merge changes from others). >
Thanks. That explains a lot. There is no "storm team" as such, so nobody has dedicated time for just that project. Things are clearer now. > > I think we can do better than we have in the past though, which is why > I started this thread. I don't expect community members to have a > higher commitment to the project than us (if they are hacking on > Storm, it is most likely to support one of their own projects too), > but I'd like to see that effort put into the trunk. > > I agree. My personal project would require a major enhancement in the base code to really work well. It would not exist viably as a fork. This discussion gives me hope that I could actually do it. > > > I personally felt quite a cold reception [...]when I submitted an > attempt to > > make the tutorial more approachable. This has made me hesitate to make > other > > contributions. > > The problem with that branch was that it changed the tutorial from > what we'd consider idiomatic Storm use to a form we would not > recommend new users use. If you took this as personal criticism > rather than criticism of the change, I am sorry about that: it wasn't > intended. If you peruse the past bug and review comments, you'll find > criticisms of pretty much every Storm developer's code. > Criticism is what reviews are for. I have been doing code reviews since the late 1970's, so I understand that. In a very real way, my submission was itself a criticism. IMHO the tutorial really sucks -- err -- that is to say -- is difficult for a person totally unacquainted with storm to understand. I could not understand it at first, so I added training wheels until it made sense to me. I realize that my changes reduced the value of the tutorial as sample code. On the other hand, if a newbie cannot get through the tutorial, he or she will never need sample code. The point is that I stuck my nose in, as an outsider, to a group who didn't know me, and suggested a major change in style in one particular area. Most groups would react badly to that, so I expected some negative feedback. When the feedback seemed totally negative, and terse as well, I figured that my suggestions would always be unwelcome, I packed up my stuff and went back home. Apparently I misinterpreted. I will make another try. > > [...] > James. > -- Vernon
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