Thanks Ken. We'll see who else might be available. Tom
T R Miles Technical Consultants Inc. 503-780-8185 [email protected] Sent from mobile. On Jan 1, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Ken <[email protected]> wrote: > Tom and all, > I had an email from Art Donnelly a couple of weeks ago saying that he would > be in Costa Rica until May. > > Ken > > From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>; > To: <[email protected]>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves' > <[email protected]>; > Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS > Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 1:15:13 AM > > Good suggestion. If we can get Paul, Art and Nathan I'd be happy to moderate > the discussion. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Crispin > Pemberton-Pigott > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:10 PM > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves > Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS > > How about World Stove users in Rwanda? I heard at least once they are > bringing in the char. > Crispin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Tom Miles" <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:20:57 > To: <[email protected]>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking > stoves'<[email protected]>; 'Bryden, Kenneth [M > E]'<[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves > <[email protected]> > Cc: 'Kathy Nafie'<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; 'Hugh > McLaughlin'<[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Stoves] [Ethos] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS > > Paul, > > Art Donnelly or someone from Seachar should be on the panel if he is not in > Costa Rica. Who else has worked in the field with biochar from stoves? > > Do we have enough information, or field experience, to know whether biochar > from stoves has been adopted and used by cooks? Does the shoe fit? I suspect > that in getting used to a new stove, like a TLUD, it takes the cook awhile > to buy into it. Saving the charcoal is another step. Making biochar of > different qualities for different purposes would be another step. How does > using a biochar stove differ from using the fines from an earth kiln, > beehive kiln, Adam retort, Pronatura kiln or other charcoal making device > that might be is use nearby? > > If we have the cast these topics would be useful. > > Tom > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Paul S. Anderson > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 8:20 AM > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Bryden, Kenneth [M E]; > [email protected] > Cc: Hugh McLaughlin; Kathy Nafie; [email protected]; > [email protected]; ETHOS - Listserve > Subject: Re: [Ethos] [Stoves] Biochar Stove Discussion at ETHOS > > Dear all, > > I totally agree with the Tom and Mark about having a panel on biochar at the > ETHOS 2012 meeting at the end of this month (January). > > I submit the following additional information: > > 1. I offer to be on the panel. I attend biochar conferences and frequently > present about biochar production. I think that I should NOT organize nor > lead the panel. > > 2. Let's define what biochar issues will be focal, and which will be > secondary. Tom Miles wrote: > > I think the emphasis should be on field experiences with the use of > > char in developing countries more than on stoves that make char. > > However, ETHOS is NOT a group of soil and plant scientists, nor is it > focused on climate change. Summary statements about the secondary topics > could be useful. But our primary focus actually is the ability of > cookstoves to make char (and what types of char?) and in what quantities and > with what fuel feedstocks. > > 3. I am sbmitting today (via this message to Angie) my abstract for a > presentation at ETHOS. I would like this to be a regular presentation that > is at any time slot before the panel discussion. > > ******************* > > Abstract for ETHOS 2012 > > Title: Micro-gasification for Combined Heat and Biochar (CHAB) in "Mini" > Industries > > Authors: Paul S. Anderson, Charles Anglin, Art Donnelly and Paul W. Wever > > Abstract: > Micro-gasification devices at "mini" sizes from 20 to 150 kW (70 K to > 500 K BTU/hr) provide far more thermal power than is needed for > institutional cooking and far less than most applications of the heat for > small industry and space-heating of buildings. Currently functional devices > and applications are explained and discussed with quantitative data. These > include: TLUD heat for Paramont Dairy in Uganda; TLUD drying of cacao beans > in the SeaChar project in Costa Rica; AVUD (continuous automated operation) > heat and biochar production for a municipal bio-digestor and for factory > space-heating by Chip Energy in the USA, and barrel-size biochar production > (without use of the heat) by several initiatives, including the Jolly Roger > Oven, the Re:Char project in Kenya, "in-field" biochar-barrel system by > Anderson, and efforts by UB International in Mongolia and elsewhere. > > ******************************** > Notes: > > 1. Anderson will be working with Art Donnelly in Costa Rica in the middle > half of this month, so the results presented will be as up to date as > possible. > > 2. This presentation is intended to be one of several by different people > at ETHOS about TLUD micro-gasification. Known or suspected presentations > include (These are NOT in order, and we hope that they will NOT be in > concurrent sessions,) > > A. Marc Pare, on micro-gasification advances using rice husks as fuel in > TLUDs. > > B. Christa Roth, on GIZ advances with charcoal stoves, including the > TChar technology. (if unfamiliar with "TChar", please see > www.drtlud.com ) > > C. Paul Anderson, the CHAB devices (see abstract at start of this message). > > D. Robert Fairchild, (title not known, but he works with TLUD and TChar > devices for project in Haiti, and brings an engineering perspective to the > topic.) > > E. Kathy Nafie, President of the Biomass Energy Foundation, presenting > about outreach activities in North America and overseas by the BEF relating > to micro-gasification. > > F. Presenter unknown, but work by Aprovecho on TLUD / micro-gasification > will probably be presented (we hope). > > G. Does Jim Jetter or someone else involved with stove testing have a > summary of emissions data from micro-gasifiers? (we hope so.) > > H. OTHERS: I do not want to leave anyone out, but I do not know of all of > the efforts with micro-gasification, and / or if they will be attending. > There are now numerous projects and efforts around the world (including > Wendelbo / Formo in Zambia). > > And because all of the TLUD stoves and devices can be use to make biochar, > these also relate to the topic of this email. I would like to hear (via a > direct message) from anyone with a TLUD-type topic for presentation, even if > you are not going to attend ETHOS. > > NOTE: The deadline for abstracts to ETHOS is TODAY 1 January 2012. > In past years there have been some extentions of time, but that is up to > Angie and Mark of ETHOS. Contact them immediately if considering sending in > an abstract. > > Plus: > The Saturday evening presentation (sometimes called a "Keynote" > presentation) this year will be on > > "The Present and Future of Micro-gasification for Cookstoves: > Expectations for Achieving the 2020 Goals of the Global Alliance for Clean > Cookstoves." > > I will be making that presentation, and I assure you that it will NOT be > what you have heard before nor even in the numerous presentations listed > above. > > I am suggesting that the ETHOS administration allow this to be a "public > lecture" open to everyone, not just to the those who register for the ETHOS > conference. If that is allowed, we can attract a larger audience to our > ETHOS objectives. Perhaps our host University and other organizations such > as SeaChar and BEF could help publicize the presentation. > > ********************** > > Paul > -- > Paul S. Anderson, PhD > Known to some as: Dr. TLUD Doc Professor > Phone (USA): 309-452-7072 SKYPE: paultlud Email: [email protected] > www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf (Best ref.) > > > Quoting "Bryden, Kenneth [M E]" <[email protected]>: > > > Sounds like a great idea. This is an important discussion or community > > needs to have. Any suggestions or volunteers? Ron? Anyone from > > SeaChar? > > > > > > On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Tom Miles wrote: > > > > Who wants to lead a biochar stove discussion at ETHOS? I think the > > emphasis should be on field experiences with the use of char in > > developing countries more than on stoves that make char. > > > > Tom Miles > > _______________________________________________ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Illinois State University RedbirdMail > > _______________________________________________ > Ethos mailing list > [email protected] > http://cannon-mail.vrac.iastate.edu/mailman/listinfo/ethos > > > > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists > .org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://www.bioenergylists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists > .org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://www.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://www.bioenergylists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://www.bioenergylists.org/ >
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