Andrew,
Can we melt steel with torrified wood?

I'm trying to follow your thinking on the propane flame, inner/outer business. Are your suggesting that the pyrolysis gasses be kept separated from the CO from charcoal gasification in one device like the Dasifier and then burn the latter inside the former.

The other Das trick to elevating the useful temperature is the intense mixing he generates with his compressor induced flows, thereby maximizing the heat flux in a small volume. Is the necessary retention time for complete combustion inversely proportional to the turbulent mixing rate of the fuel gas and air?

Alex









An 1 Further musings: [1] it should be just about possible to melt steel with a wood flame if the wood is perfectly dry, in practice it doesn't happen and iron was not produced until charcoal was used, the reason is simple; whilst the charcoal only has <50% of the heat of the raw wood it was produced from, it is dry nearly pure carbon with about 30MJ per kg available to be released on full oxidation. C+O2+4N2=>4N2+ CO2+30MJ heat per kg of C is a low massflow reaction and heats of over 2000C are achievable. Consider a propane torch flame, when premixed with the correct amount of air the flame is two blue flames, a bright blue inner flame surrounded by a paler blue enveloping flame, the hottest part is at the tip of the inner cone where nearly all of the premixed oxygen is consumed burning hydrogen and some carbon to H2O and CO/CO2, remaining CO is then burned in the outer enveloping flame by oxygen that has survive the first flame and oxygen that diffuses in from the surrounding air. Can we consider doing something similar with the dasifier, using the high mass flow ~1600C pyrolysis offgas flame to form a hot envelope around the lower heat capacity but higher temperature CO+N2 flame? Without destroying the burner pipe from the heat? AJH _______________________________________________ Stoves mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: http://www.bioenergylists.org/


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