Dear Dr Karve Thanks for the explanation. Im quite satisfied with my curiosity for now. I suspected the altitude would make that difference.
Thanks for your time. Jed 2012/5/20 Anand Karve <[email protected]> > Dear Jed, > the lady asking for a dung burning stove had already explained the fact > that she was working for people living above the tree line and that wood > was not available at that altitude. There are many such areas. For > instance, in Ladakh in India, yak dung is the only fuel available for > cooking. > It is not necessary that one has to use dung or other biomass for > supplying agricultural crops with the necessary minerals. Soil has all the > minerals that plants need. If your land has a 1 m thick layer of soil on > it, you can practice agriculture for 25000 years without adding any > minerals from an outside source to the soil. There are special ways of > making the soil minerals available to crops. I can write to you privately > about it if you are interested. > Yours > A.D.Karve > > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Joshua Guinto < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Ann >> >> >> Please excuse me for posting a somewhat naive question. >> >> Why does it have to be a dung for fuel. Would not the stoves compete with >> soil fertility if you use dung for cooking instead of having them as >> compost? >> >> Would you not rather have the raw biomass fuels like grass and wood >> sticks as fuel? >> >> Just being curious...... >> >> >> Jed Guinto >> >> Philippines >> >> >> >> 2012/5/21 Boston Nyer <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi Ann, >>> >>> Here is a link to a GTZ stove design that has been used for burning dung >>> in the highlands of Peru: >>> http://www.hedon.info/docs/CEC_inkawasi-stove_peru_factsheet-2008.pdf >>> >>> Please note that I have no direct experience with these stoves, just >>> aware that they exist. >>> >>> Best of luck! >>> Boston >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM, CEDESOL Foundation < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ann, >>>> One of our volunteers replied to your inquiry about CEDESOL stoves. >>>> Did you receive his information? I have been in rural areas where we >>>> have been installing 720 double burner rockets with chimneys. Do >>>> respond if you need more info. My cel 59177900868 abrazos and saludos >>>> to Nancy and Richard. >>>> >>>> On 5/20/12, Richard Stanley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Ann, >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for your inquiry and thanks Nancy for your recommendation. We >>>> are not >>>> > directly involved with improved stoves; However there a contact in >>>> Peru that >>>> > you might want to explore. >>>> > >>>> > We installed a briquette production project in the outlying areas of >>>> Cusco >>>> > under the Adventist Development Relief Organisation in 2003 ( see the >>>> latter >>>> > half of the video on our website) but they let it all die just as it >>>> was >>>> > getting off the ground, as their priorities apparently shifted to >>>> follow the >>>> > changes in their donor's ( then USAID) interests. I returned to >>>> discover all >>>> > this while at the PCIA stove conference in Peru, in Feb, 2011. While >>>> there, >>>> > I also happened to meet a one Javier Saldivar <[email protected]> >>>> who >>>> > is very active with stove projects in the southern highlands. I am >>>> not sure >>>> > what kind of material he uses for the chimney though. >>>> > >>>> > Kind regards, >>>> > >>>> > Richard Stanley >>>> > www.legacyfound.org >>>> > Ashland Oregon ( our Mayor is a one John Stromberg: Any relation ? ) >>>> > ================================================== >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On May 19, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Ann Stromberg wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I am a member of the Board of Directors of a small foundation that >>>> works in >>>> > the highlands of southern Peru. One of our projects is improved >>>> stoves, and >>>> > we are seeking to improve our model. I have corresponded with Nancy >>>> > Sanford Hughes and she suggested that I contact you: the Stove Team >>>> > International's Ecocina burns wood, and our communities are above the >>>> tree >>>> > line and wood/charcoal are not realistic fuel options. Families in >>>> our >>>> > communities depend on cow dung for fuel. The families like to cook >>>> indoors >>>> > for the most part (traditionally in small unventilated kitchens >>>> separate >>>> > from other living areas). To date we have been working with an adobe >>>> model >>>> > (families make their own adobes) with a stovepipe. A problem that we >>>> have >>>> > encountered in corrosion of the stovepipes, sometimes within a year of >>>> > installation. >>>> > >>>> > Might you have any recommendations/experience regarding stovepipes >>>> that >>>> > might be retrofitted for our stove? >>>> > >>>> > In the longer term, we would also consider other models. I am >>>> wondering if >>>> > you would be able to direct us to a tested model of a household-level >>>> > "improved stove" that burns dung and has been shown to have a >>>> significant >>>> > positive effect in improvement of the indoor air quality. The stove >>>> must >>>> > function at 13,000-14,000 feet altitude and survive an annual season >>>> of >>>> > heavy rain as well as lengthy dry season. >>>> > >>>> > Any advice or leads that you can provide for us will be MUCH >>>> appreciated. >>>> > Thank you so much for taking time to write. I'd be happy to call >>>> you if >>>> > that's easier for you. >>>> > >>>> > Ann Stromberg, Ph.D., M.P.H. >>>> > for The Chijnaya Foundation >>>> > www.chijnayafoundation.org >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Stoves mailing list >>>> > >>>> > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > >>>> > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>>> > >>>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>>> > >>>> > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web >>>> site: >>>> > http://www.bioenergylists.org/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>> >>>> David Whitfield V. >>>> Executive Director >>>> CEDESOL Foundation >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Stoves mailing list >>>> >>>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>>> >>>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>>> >>>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >>>> http://www.bioenergylists.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Boston Nyer >>> Director of Operations >>> BURN Design Lab >>> www.burndesignlab.org >>> Skype: BostonNyer >>> Cell: 585.503.3459 >>> Office: 331.444.BURN >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Stoves mailing list >>> >>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> [email protected] >>> >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> >>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>> >>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >>> http://www.bioenergylists.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Stoves mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >> http://www.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> >> > > > -- > *** > Dr. A.D. 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