Dear Paul and All

Having made a stove I called a semi-gasifier for years I will chip in that the 
term is my view means that it can operate in more than one mode. 

The description you gave of staged combustion takes place nearly all the time 
so I am a little more cautious about strictly dividing the stoves into groups. 
All fires are gas fires (save a tiny part of solid fuel combustion). It is easy 
to demonstrate that some fires have primary combustion then to more distinct 
stages with secondary and tertiary air. Stove architecture may emphasize this 
or not. 

A semi-gasifier can burn as a TLUD to start then continue as either a refuelled 
BLUD or a pyrolyser without any particular direction to the front, just that it 
continues in a controlled air environment. The 'direction' concept is correct 
for some fires and not others. If the mode can be selected by moving a lever 
then the user has some or perhaps a lot of control over then firepower which 
is, after all, the purpose of the complexity. 

As the fuel condition may vary, the user needs to add the appropriate amount of 
air to the fire to get the desired heat level. 

Consider: a hot TLUD that has almost completed its char burn is refuelled. The 
primary air is almost completely closed.  The fuel will pyrolyse and combustion 
may not continue from the bottom only - it may return to a gas-producing mode 
that does not have a vertical component but rather an inward component towards 
the centre of the fuel particles. This can easily be demonstrated by refuelling 
with different diameters of fuel. The thin fuel will pyrolyse easily and 
rapidly. Thick fuel will not, yielding a long low flame. In both cases the 
'fire' is neither at the bottom nor the top. It is a self-heating retort, 
basically. 

Downdraft fires which are allowed to create a coke/char burning bed can easily 
return a pyrolysis front style combustion by adding fuel on top of the char. 
They are extremely PM-clean when being refuelled as the hot bed is already 
established. With a top-loader the transition may not be as smooth. 

So far I have not seen a stove which can be turned from a char burning state 
back into a TLUD save one which is the Mongolian Rotating Grate (from Inner 
Mongolia). I made a video of it with Profs Lodoysamba and Tseyen-Oidov and 
posted it on this site. It is also on YouTube if I recall correctly. It can be 
refuelled and flipped with a crank to return to a TLUD fire. It is poorly 
executed but the concept is articulated by the designer and definitely works. 

As it really has only one combustion type I never considered it a semi-gasifier 
as it does not have enough air control to pyrolyse fuel properly. 

Perhaps these descriptions will inspire new and clearer nomenclature. What I 
would like to see is room for new ideas so people learning about stoves are not 
channelled into mental ruts about how things have to be. 

Regards to all from sweltering Battambang, Cambodia
Crispin
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