Dear Paul and All

There are two methods not mentioned:

1. The use of a set of secondary air holes correctly positioned and sized to 
have the same effect as a disk with a central hole. This is applied in a Vesto 
(ND-UD)

2.  The use of an annular gap admitting air in an unbroken stream instead of 
jets creating, in the same way, the same effect as a disk+hole without a disk. 
This is applied in the POCA (ND-UD) charcoal stove. 

I have a quibble with the reference by Bob to the energy applied to the primary 
air as 'suction' by introducing a venturi. Because the introduction involves a 
change in the combustion performance, there can be an apparent loss of energy, 
but the system is a vertical ND one so the reduction of the space for a 
secondary flame means more (free) draft. The result is not predictable on the 
basis of gas flow alone, one has to consider the change in geometry AND the 
change in the temperature and velocity simultaneously. In short the draft on 
the primary supply may decrease, increase or remain the came. 

Thanks for the stimulation
Crispin
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Anderson <[email protected]>
Sender: "Stoves" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:26:29 
To: Robert Fairchild<[email protected]>
Reply-To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
        <[email protected]>
Cc: Christa Roth<[email protected]>; Hugh 
McLaughlin<[email protected]>; Tom Reed<[email protected]>; 
<[email protected]>; Discussion of biomass cooking 
stoves<[email protected]>; Karsten Bechtel<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Concentrators in ND TLUDs

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