Dear Michal,    (and Stovers)

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About chimneys, I am not qualified to respond. My only comment is to question the size (and probable expense) of what you are discussing.

Dr TLUD

Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
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On 3/23/2013 7:23 AM, Michal Usowicz wrote:

Dr Anderson,

I hope that everything is going wonderfully with you and that your TLUDs are still burning!I recently got to Madagascar for Peace Corps service and things have been progressing well.My host family for pre-service training here cooks with wood inside but they are planning to build a chimney and I would like to help them construct a good one.Large diameter (about 3-4 ft) brick chimneys similar to what you may expect to see in US homes are common in the community that my host family is in and I think a brick chimney will be the best solution to ventilating the home in this context.

A large diameter, natural draft, brick chimney seems like a straight forward problem but I wanted to make sure that I was not making any mistakes.I thought you may be a good person to ask even though I know this isn’t your exact specialty.I expect the chimney will be about 15-20 ft tall and at least the hearth will have a rectangular cross-sectional area of 3.5x4 ft^2 since that it the current size of my host mother’s fireplace (although I am unsure if my host family will construct the chimney with a taper).It will primarily be made out of clay bricks and mortar.Could you please give me some guidance on the following questions?

1.Is there a good rule of thumb for the minimum chimney height to have good draw from the hearth?The only way that I have to estimate this is using the chimney effect equation (ie flow is proportional to Area, height^0.5) and I found that for practical chimney heights for my situation (ie 15-20 ft) there was not a significant change in the flow rate of the chimney.However, for the equation to apply the chimney needs to be adiabatic, which I think is a bad assumption in this case.Do you think 15 ft will be tall enough or does it need to be taller?

2.I do not understand the effects of geometry on chimney draw and was curious if there is a problem with necking down the chimney significantly after the hearth?I suspect that my host family may copy the design of a neighbor’s chimney (since they are hiring the same mason to build theirs) which tapers down asymmetrically (ie the left wall is slanted and the right is straight) after the hearth from about ­­­­­­2x3.5 ft^2 at the base to about 2x1 ft^2 over about 6 ft.

3.Along the lines of the previous question, I am concerned that the rain cap for the chimneys may choke the flow.The rain caps of the chimneys here is a thin slab of concrete set at the top of the chimney with 1-3 bricks at each corner.Do I need to pay attention to the size of the gaps under the rain cap?

4.I know if you build the chimney shorter than the apex of the house the chimney effect of the house may overwhelm the effect of the chimney.Do you have any intuition or advice about the height difference between the chimney and the roof apex that is needed to avoid this?

5.I feel intuitively that it would be a good idea to minimize the height of the hearth entrance to capture the smoke plume before it spreads but I am not sure if this matters if there is good draw in the chimney.Do you have an opinion on this?

6.Have you ever heard of Rumsford chimneys?I had a construction engineer friend of mine build one in his house and he said that the draw from the chimney was excellent.I was just curious if you had heard of it and if you had an opinion of it.

Again I hope that everything is going well with you.I would really appreciate any advice you may be able to give.

Sincerely,

Michal Usowicz



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