Thank you to Kirk Smith for his reply (below for all Stove Listmembers to read).

I think someone told me that <2.5 PM cannot be seen. But if there is a lot of it, is it visibly detectable (like the haze of a smoky room, or is that just the larger particles that we are seeing?)

Related question: For a small child besides it mother in a smoky cooking shack, cooking "typically" 2 - 3 times per day, what is the "equivalent" as expressed in cigarettes smoked per day? And can that be expressed as equivalent of SECONDARY smoke from being in a room with smokers in it (but that becomes confused because of room size and number of smokers in it)?

I am trying to visualize this as a mother/cook smoking cigarettes, and as a baby or a 2-year old child smoking cigarettes (an unnatural but powerful visual image).

Paul

Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
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On 6/4/2013 9:15 AM, Kirk R. Smith wrote:
Quick responses below

At 06:27 AM 6/4/2013, Paul Anderson wrote:

Stovers,

Please tell me or direct me to an explanation of the impact of the PM that is BETWEEN PM 2.5 and PM 10.

I believe that the experts say that under 2.5 is the bad stuff for respiratory health, and that over 10 is not sufficiently important even to be measured.

Yes, material over PM10 generally is caught in the upper respiratory system (nose, etc) and does not penetrate the body sufficiently to be a health hazard. May be a nuisance, of course. Major reviews of health impacts, however, show that the fine fraction (less than 2.5) is the best single indicator for health, but that the coarse fraction (between 2.5-10) also shows effects. Thus, no agency has abandoned PM10 regs, but most are moving to add PM2.5 regs as well. Issue for measurements right at the combustion source is that nearly all is PM2.5.


Is PM size 10 to 25 (twenty five) ( 50 or 100) "visible"? Detectable to the nose or eyes?

yes, which is a reason that perception is not a great indicator of hazard


What causes cataracts?

not known for sure, but probably from internal, not external exposure to combustion-related pollutants in any case. Chemical carried to the eye through the blood. Eye is well protected externally. Need to think of PM2.5 as the best indicator of a mixture, not that itself causes all effects. Like "tar" for cigarettes, which is essentially PM2.5


How important is the PM larger than 2.5?

See above.


Please forward this inquiry to the stove-medical people who are not readers of this Listserv.

Paul

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