Tom, list etal

   Should also add that the words  "biomass" and "cook stoves" are in our list 
description.

Ron



On Jun 8, 2013, at 9:11 AM, "Tom Miles" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Paul
>  
> Health issues clearly are of interest.
>  
> Not everyone in the stoves community will want to receive regular information 
> about health. I suggest two mechanisms:
> 1.      Kirk can subscribe us ([email protected]) and we can repost 
> information of interest to the Stoves list.
> 2.      If there is a signup URL we can post it on the stoves list and link 
> from the stoves website to Kirk’s list or archives.   
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Tom
>  
>  
> From: Stoves [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Anderson
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 6:51 AM
> To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Kirk Smith; Jay Smith; Hugh 
> McLaughlin
> Subject: [Stoves] Fwd: from K Smith [stove] Smoked out: Coal and health
>  
> Stovers,
> 
> I have recently started to receive Kirk Smith's messages in his personal 
> [stove] listserv.   Note that it is different from the [Stoves] listserv 
> (capital S and plural s).  I wonder what messages I (and others) have missed 
> in the past.   Of course, his focus is on health issues, which have not been 
> sufficiently addressed in the Stoves Listserv.   Krik, is there an Archive of 
> your previous messages?
> 
> And who else is on BOTH the [stove] and [Stoves] listserv?     
> 
> (to Tom M. and Erin, how can we address this needed linkage?   I think that 
> Dr. Smith is appropriately focused on "health + stoves" and does not need the 
> full "everything + stoves" that is on the Stoves Listserv.   It is we Stovers 
> who what his "health" element added into our "everything" medley. )
> 
> I am forwarding Smith's message because it is certainly of interest to us 
> Stovers.   And I add these comments:
> 
> 1.  The item correctly names coal burning stoves as a problem.   But I will 
> anticipate Crispin's rely by saying that I agree with Crispin that there are 
> not bad fuels, just bad stoves.   And that the breakthroughs about improved 
> coal burning stoves are just starting to become known and they need further 
> research.  
> 
> 2.  Remember, there are many different types of coal, so look for successful 
> clean burning for a specific stove with a specific type of coal, and 
> celebrate and advocate that success, rather than dwell upon the NON-successes 
> of other stoves with other types of coal.  
> 
> 3.  The GACC needs to embrace the coal stoves as well as the biomass stoves 
> and the stoves that use "other" fuels like biogas, LPG, etc.   
> 
> 4.  Crispin has experience with coal burning stoves in Mongolia.   Some are 
> TLUDs.   Claims are that some are quite clean burning.   GETTING THIS 
> INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US SHOULD BE ONE OF THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES OF 
> THE GACC AND ACESS.  GACC claims to be "stove neutral".   But it is not 
> "stove agnostic".   Time for us all the be more knowledgeable about 
> coal-burning stoves, and the GACC and ACESS represent us and have access to 
> funding.
> 
> Enjoy Kirk's book review.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
> Email:  [email protected]   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:
> [stove] Smoked out: Coal and health
> Date:
> Fri, 07 Jun 2013 12:03:10 -0700
> From:
> Kirk R. Smith <[email protected]>
> To:
> Kirk R. Smith <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> Part of a special issue of Lancet on China's health, June 8, 2013.  Note my 
> emphasis on the household pollution from coal, which was missed by the book I 
> reviewed/k
> 
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> 
> 
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