Dear Dean and Kevin, All,
<http://www.cheney268.com/learning/organizers/scientificmethod.htm> http://www.cheney268.com/learning/organizers/scientificmethod.htm The experts will spend years of talking and then finally come up with some procedure. It will likely not be the best one but one that got through the maze of reviewers. What I think is important is a system is set up and, most important, one that includes an 'on-going review and change process' as experience, new equipment etc. demonstrates a need. That is ISO and ASTM. Groups that do not have on-going review of methods (I can name a few) will quickly produce outdated meaningless results from obsolete methods. It is not a one-time process. So there will be (must be) in place the ability to comment and suggest future changes to procedure. No one will get what they want but as long as we have the opportunity to make a change we can go with it. After we do what is required we can add other tests we personally think more important and when enough data is gathered we can submit it for possible replacement of the original. So keep testing in a manner that you think is best and keep talking as to why your way is better - is how I see it and been doing. Based on what we learned in 4th grade (link above) the first step in testing is to Choose a Problem and ask a question. If one stove tests out better than another but the test was not designed to answer -your- question - the results mean nothing. Another test must be designed to answer your question. You then go out on your own and hope someone will still look at your results. They will likely mean way more than the established protocol. Regards Frank. Frank Shields Control Laboratories; Inc. 42 Hangar Way Watsonville, CA 95076 (831) 724-5422 tel (831) 724-3188 fax [email protected] www.controllabs.com From: Stoves [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dean Still Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:25 PM To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves Subject: [Stoves] external review by competent independent authorities Dear Kevin, In the ISO process, which will take several years, hundreds of experts from around the world will be proposing many different approaches to testing. There are now national stove tests in China and India. Who knows, it's possible that a field based approach like the Controlled Cooking Test may be used? The "external review of the various stove testing protocols by competent independent authorities" is taking place on an incredibly wide scale that is beyond the influence of individuals. Many countries, including the USA, are forming committees to meet over the next years and create standards. Interested experts now have a dedicated venue to discuss options. Best, Dean
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