Hi Ron,

I am basically looking at natural draft front loading continuous feeding wood 
stoves and natural draft charcoal stoves. The reason I am investigating these 
is that for a wood stove, having secondary air component "really" did impact on 
the CO and PM production. The two stoves similar in design had the same thermal 
efficiency but then differed a lot with the emissions. The secondary air 
supposedly used was via the exterior gap ( I am guessing similar to the Philips 
TLUD). However, I am not talking about the TLUDs here but just normal front 
feeding wood cookstoves. 

Heard from Crispin regarding the role of secondary air in charcoal cookstoves. 
So it is used to burn the evaporated volatiles and the CO to CO2. Designs of 
the Benin charcoal stove have a simple concept of having holes on the bottom of 
the outer body which allows air to flow through it and then this pre-heated air 
is exited out to the combustion chamber to aid in the combustion of the 
volatile unburnt gases. Does this feature work?

Looking to hearing from you.

Cheers

Sarbagya
 
On 21/08/2013, at 1:25 AM, Ronal W. Larson wrote:

> Sarbagya:
> 
>    Can you narrow down the type of stoves you are looking at?  And why?  
> 
>    You seem to be talking of TLUDs, and when mentioning consuming char is 
> that in a TLUD?
> 
>    We have seen some nice designs with secondary being preheated with a 
> central pipe, not the exterior gap you describe.
> 
>    At least one stove developer (Kirk Harris) has argued for using that 
> exterior space for added insulation.  A topic fairly easy to compare in the 
> lab you appear to have available.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Sarbagya R. Tuladhar <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi stovers,
>> 
>> The debate on the role of secondary air both for natural draft and forced 
>> draft has been raging for quite some time now. Obtaining secondary air in 
>> pre-heated form has been the research area for me in the laboratory for the 
>> past few weeks. However, one conclusion I obtained was that secondary air if 
>> not pre-heated would have the tendency to put off the fire by blowing in 
>> cold air. 
>> 
>> Hence my question is:
>> 
>> What is the role of secondary air for wood burning stoves ? Is there an 
>> optimum gap for the secondary air to travel between the jackets of the 
>> combustion chamber before ejecting out into the combustion chamber ? How 
>> does this effect the performance of the cookstove ? I know a few cookstoves 
>> which have secondary air concept included and which seemed to decrease the 
>> CO and PM up to some extent. 
>> 
>> What is the role of secondary air for charcoal burning stoves ? Quoting 
>> Crispin "Secondary air is necessary to burn charcoal in a low O2 environment 
>> at a high temperature." How does this effect the performance of the charcoal 
>> cookstove?
>> 
>> Waiting for the responses.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sarbagya Tuladhar
>> Pondicherry, INDIA
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