Hello Ronal, Just to add; from experience the four selling points for TLUD stoves are; 1. Time and fuel saving (cook faster, with much less biomass) 2. Use a wide variety of biomass (this has issues with chopping wood especially for rural Uganda) 3. Makes Charcoal that can be re-used in another charcoal stove or as biochar 4. Clean (less smoke aka toxins - but they dont really understand emissions)
These are clear for potential users when we do a demo in villages. Nolbert. 2014-01-29, Ronal W. Larson <[email protected]>: > Antony - with eleven ccs > > 1. First note nice help offered by Alan Cave in several messages > yesterday. They did not include your original request below. > > I agree with his remark that the continuous Belonio stoves that you > found > at Paul Anderson's sites are down draft (BLDD) - and that may be the best > way to go. At the recent ETHOS conference I do not recall this topic coming > up. (I wrote 3-pager on that conference - available at the stoves site.) > The reason is the strong emphasis on stoves that cost $10-$20 - and I doubt > we can ever see continuous feed stoves in that price range. I talked to Dr. > Belonio a good bit over the last weekend, but this topic did not come up. I > include Alexis as a cc, as he is probably the best expert on this topic we > have. > > 2. I include the stoves list, because there is apt to be more > expertise > there on your stove question than on the Biochar-production list. Tom Miles > added because he manages both lists and will have valuable thoughts. > > 3. I Include Jerry Whitfield, Jock Gill, Alex English, and Marc Pare > as > they have all written on continuous feed char-makers; but none I think for > stoves. These are probably all horizontal feed (augers, moving grates, > etc.). See http://www.whitfieldbiochar.com (that is apparently in a > "hold" mode). Apologies to anyone I inadvertently left out who has been > thinking of continuous-feed stoves. > > 4. I include Dean Still and Ranyee Chiang as the best way to get this > topic into GACC discussions. > > 5. Can you explain more on why you are interested in this topic for > stoves? Do you have an upper price limit or particular stove application in > mind? Would several low cost batch TLUDs operating sequentially in parallel > meet your needs? > > I consider the non-continuous aspect of TLUDs as their biggest drawback > - > so think we should all take this topic very seriously. I thank you for > bringing it up. In my mind, the other advantages of TLUDs (primarily time > savings and money-making) outweigh this disadvantage. But it would be very > nice to remove this disadvantage whenever an application allows the extra > expense that seems sure to accompany continuous operation. > > Ron > > > > > > On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Anthill <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi biochar-production people. Google has failed me. Do you know if anyone >> developed a biochar-generating stove that can run continuously? Something >> that: >> >> - Produces water-quenched biochar >> - Runs continuously on pellets/chips >> - Unlikely to set fire to feed hopper >> - Flame can be used for cooking >> >> What I'm thinking of is something like: >> >> http://imgur.com/a/BGADk >> >> Google has showed me: >> >> The BEK biochar generator >> http://bekbiochar.pbworks.com/w/page/6465132/FrontPage >> - Not for cooking >> >> Wallace's biochar generator >> http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/wallaceACpatent >> - Not woodgas-running >> >> Belonio's continuous rice husk generator >> http://www.drtlud.com/2012/04/04/rice-husk-gasifier-new-papers/ >> - No quenchable biochar? >> >> >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> -Antony >> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New >> Topic Messages in this topic (1) >> RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 1 >> Visit Your Group >> Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest * Unsubscribe * Terms of Use >> . >> >> __,_._,___ > > -- Nolbert Muhumuza President & Chief Operations Officer Awamu Biomass Energy Ltd. P.O. Box 40127, Nakawa Kampala - Uganda. Mobile: +256-776-346724 Skype: nolbertm www.awamu.ug _______________________________________________ Stoves mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/
