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Believe it or not, I agree with Paul on this one. There aren't many jobs in St. Paul that the open minded people in this city will hire those that don't have English as a first language, the mentally ill (even if they have a Master's degree), or the disabled. And if it's a choice between $8 an hour and nothing or being homeless, I'll take the $8 an hour any day. So, unless you're on on the bottom of Mazlow's pyramid doing whatever you can to survive, I don't think you would understand. Like Paul said, jobs is jobs. Renee Jenson Como ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kuettel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: [StPaul] Back to St Paul > St. Paul E-Democracy Links > http://www.e-democracy.org/stpaul/links.html > _____________________________________________ > > Hi All! > > I have been overwhelmed at how the Walmart thread has re-energized this > list....or is it just that everyone is on Christmas Vacation with time on their > hands? > > The various rational and irrational takes on economics have been very > interesting,, but we have strayed far from the scope of the list. > > I suggest that we have beaten the general topic of capitalism to death. Let us > return to the original thread of the pros and cons of Walmart locating in Midway > Marketplace, specifically, and in St Paul, generally. > > My position is that jobs is jobs. Take 'em or leave 'em. We have experienced a > great influx of immigrants over the past decade, which had grown exponentially > as more come and reproduce. Betty McCollum promises to put an upword spike on > those stats next year. > > I wondered back in a political debate in '94 why disparate cultures from the > mountains of Laos to the deserts of Somalia would be attracted to such a > radically different climate (weather, political, social, religious, you name > it). The glass-half full people responded that it is for education, jobs, > opportunity in general. The half-empties used terms like "welfare magnet." I > think both groups are correct to some extent. In '94 I was more in tune with > the half-empties, but seeing the success of many of our new neighbors has > softened my stance. To be sure, we ARE a welfare magnet, but kudos to those who > have quickly worked their way out of it. > > Should an EVILLLL corporation like Walmart be allowed to fill a vacant retail > space and compete with nearby Target, providing value for the dollar and > entry-level jobs for hundreds of St Paulites, or should we simply pay more > property tax to Ramsey County for social services in order to keep the Midway > Center/Marketplace/Target complex so very upscale and pristine? ;-) > > Builder's Square, Ikea, Walmart, Menards, etc. I say, Bring 'em ON! As Nahm > used to say, "Gud fuh Saint Pawhl." > > Cheers and Happy New Year! > > PK > St Paul born and bred, now keeping an eye on "my" city from my aerie in Falcon > Heights, home of the Raptor Center. > > > _____________________________________________ > NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul > > Archive Address: > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ > _____________________________________________ > For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html > For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract > > _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/ _____________________________________________ For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract
